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"The future ain’t what it used to be."

-Yogi Berra

  • Employee revolt and failing agents forced Meta to scrap its AI layoff plan

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  • I think if a company is going to be successful at using this framework for anything, its going to be a company that started that way. Trying to like, retool a ship like Facebook (yes, I'll always deadname them) when its the behemouth that it is...

    It would seem far more sensible to me for these companies to have curated a crop of small companies to experiment and fail with what works and what doesn't where things can be automated, then buy up and replace components as they went along. It would just match their track record better.

    I guess they figure they are in the end game for implementing global authoritarian fascism anyways.

  • Farmers association demands Congress investigate Trump beef deal ‘betrayal’

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  • You say "You like beef?" around here, man, you like catch plenty false cracks

  • Mas furryosa

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  • live pequeño

  • Farmers association demands Congress investigate Trump beef deal ‘betrayal’

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  • Seems like they got beef.

  • Mas furryosa

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  • As Ubuntu embraces AI, Debian discusses banning all AI-generated code

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  • Good. There will be choice.

  • Ascend

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  • NVIDIA reportedly buys HuggingFace for 13 billion

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  • We just can't have nice things can we.

  • Trump signs order to rename Lake Ontario as Lake America

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  • Yeah well I just signed an order calling it the Great Canadian lakes.

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  • If you chose to polish this up (and perhaps split it into multiple) and post it somewhere, please let me know. It bears thought and development.

    Thanks, its a critique I've been building on since 2023. Because I watched the consequences of these issues manifest in real time. And I think the same critique we would all rightfully bring to Reddit re-emerged here in lemmy, which is that this space, in-fact, all online spaces: they are something we all co-create; they are not a thing which is owned by one party, be it a company, an instnace owner, an admin, a mod, a poster, or a commenter.

    The only right answer to me is also the spiritual fulfillment of the original reddit, of Lemmy and the fediverse more broadly, their deepest goal: to resinstill a sense of ownership of the communities we build together online. Reddit didn't make reddit. We made reddit and it was stolen from us. But then we just fell into the same traps as what happened to reddit. And the answer is as clear as it ever has been, although arguably, far closer to being reached.

    I've done some ideating of how this might work, and I've been thinking that a "more general" approach which could be adopted across the fedivserse for democratizing actions would be better. But it would be easier to fork lemmy and just do it there. I also met someone a while back who had implemented some different voting tools in a federated fashion (I think for polls though). It would require some thinking and design and some testing. But it would be a helluva experiment.

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  • Lemmy is not perfect but I think it’s way better then reddit and has a bigger potential. Maybe one day Lemmy will be bigger then reddit or twitter. Getting the users is the hardest part.

    I think that ship sailed. Lemmy blew it as a reddit alternative when moderators and admins wanted more/ total control over what narratives were allowed. Life doesn't actually come with a guarantee of second chances,

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  • Thats not true. There was. Go take a look at the usership numbers.

    HOWEVER, lemmy admins, especially dot world, dot ml, were being shit at the time1 and poured icecold water on the whole thing. Instead of using the opportunity to build out and embrace lemmy, it pretty much sealed its fate as a "halfway project". Seriously, go look at the numbers. Lemmy had an opportunity to "be the thing" and it blew it, and it blew it because of cultural reasons. And lemmy has continue to blow it since in this same manner. Admins and mods, instance in-fighting and drama, defederation: all of them have combined to slow/ halt the growth of the project. And in network based systems like social networks, even tapping on the brakes slightly is a deathnell. I mean look at how people like @PugJesus@lemmy.world or @return2ozma@lemmy.world have been treated. The decline in usership is a direct consequence of Admins and Mods expecting to be able to use their roles for the implicit projection of their political identities and how they think people should be using social media. And it killed lemmy.

    There is a secondary and also very important issue which could (have) resolved this, in that Lemmy has some serious design flaws. And the number one/ two being (it could be considered one issue) is not having the ability to migrate a profile, or a sub to another instance; alternatively, we need a way to merge/ branch/ fork/ whatever/ communities. I think Mbin was an effort to hopefully address this, but it too now lays dead.

    The problem can be described as follows, and during the reddexodous, the problem came up consistently. A curious user from reddit comes to explore Lemmy after getting burned by Reddit. Maybe they really like motocross racing. So they go to look for similar communities here on lemmy and find... nothing. There is no motocross community. There might be a dirt-biking community or a motor cycle community, but its far too small to support a tiny com. And so maybe the user makes a com for this. But its just them posting, they try for a while, they burn out. Its unsustainable.

    The problem here is that networked systems, and social network systems in particular, need a critical mass to be able to function as a community. Small communities end up as vestigial dead end. Likewise, each lemmy instance is built to act like an entire reddit replacement. They're built to effectively be an "entire reddit" also federated with "other reddits". So instead of one c/politics, we end up with hundreds spread out across many instances. Mods and Admins implicity use their power to filter down the modes of discourse they find acceptable. Battles are waged, people who contribute substantially burn out. The top 1% of people actually contributing (re, not typically mods/ admins) get shit on for doing the work of keeping a community alive. All of this contributes to the issue of a lack of critical mass. So it can't be said its all social. Some of it is design. But its mostly a social issue and it comes from the petty authoritarianism of moderation (mostly).

    A potentially better option would be to implement a git style "fork/ pull/ branch" system for communities, potentially also with the ability to "tag" content or posts. So you have one big "news" community. And posts get tagged for the different types of news (sports, weather, political) and when there is sufficient critical mass, you could "fork" that community. However, lets say you only forked for motocross tagged sports news, and its not sufficient to have a community around, that com could get pulled back into "motor sports" and even maybe into "sports" if there isn't sufficient activity. Likewise, an instance could "clone" a com when an over zealous admin or mod goes rogue. Take the @PugJesus@lemmy.world issue. They just didn't have it in them to build up a com for like, a fourth time, after getting shit on time and again.

    I genuinely think the design limitations could be addressed.

    And I think the social limitations could be addressed as well. I think a system of voting based on Karma based contributions to a community, especially around rules and moderation, could very much soften/ fix many of the non-admin related social issues. Being a moderator should be considered a privilege and a duty, because it comes with the ability to very much "steer" a community. c/Politics is a great example of how poorly this can doing and how wrongly it can be done, from the 2023-2025 time period. Honestly this one moderation team is probably responsible for more destruction of the ability to grow lemmy than any other, and its principally because they engage in a kind of implicit, technocratic approach to an agenda based moderation. And users like @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world , they werent even wearing a mask about the matter. They were explicitly moderating many of the largest coms specifically for forward their own zionist perspective and agenda. And this was allowed to continue for years and did real and everlasting damage to the communities here, scars and faultlines still persisting to this day.

    But that social issue is one we could deal with technically. We should introduce democracy to lemmy and the fediverse more generally. We should be able to vote about who moderates the communities we participate in and contribute to. We should be able to vote on what the rules are and how they are implemented. And those votes should be weighted by those who contribute substantially to those communities. Its utterly doable. Its something we could fix.

    1: And some say, remain so to this very day.___

  • infinite money glitch

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  • New Twitter launches, says Musk's X gave up the name

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  • This Democratic Nominee for Governor Refuses to Condemn Data Centers

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  • Ahh.. "nuance"..

    Gj Wisconsin. Ya fekken blew it.

  • World humanoid robot games show runners breaking records, bursting into flames

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  • Oh thank God. I was worried it was going to be one of those little lunch delivery bots and that it was going to take hours for it to get around to eliminating this meat bag.

  • Abdul El-Sayed asks Jesse Watters if he is circumcised during combative interview

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  • Hakeem Jeffries and Jared Kushner Meet Privately as Midterm Attacks Fly

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  • Well who else is he going to work with? The voters hate him. Democrats, as a party, will happily disenfranchise their own voters, and cede ruling to the other party, so long as they get to stay in place as managers. Its the one consistent thing about Democrats. They care less about winning elections than they doing maintaining personal control of the party.

  • Hakeem Jeffries and Jared Kushner Meet Privately as Midterm Attacks Fly

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  • There’s a much larger chance that he a fucking collaborator.

    He's not interested in the ascendant DSA wing of the party. He's said that as much.

    People like Jefferies see the parties as theirs not a thing of the peoples.

  • ouuuuu i love garlic sooo much :)

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  • FYI, a big single clove like this is a sign it was harvested too early and it won't have as strong a garlic flavor.

  • politics @lemmy.world
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    Dems see signs for optimism in gender gap in early vote

    www.politico.com /news/2024/10/29/gender-gap-early-voting-00186155
  • politics @lemmy.world
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    Harris Campaign Pulls Millions in Ad Spending in North Carolina Amid Surge of Republican Early Voters

    www.mediaite.com /politics/harris-campaign-pulls-millions-in-ad-spending-in-north-carolina-amid-surge-of-republican-early-voters/
  • politics @lemmy.world
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    To win, Harris should talk more about working-class needs and less about Trump

    www.theguardian.com /commentisfree/2024/oct/22/harris-working-class-voters-poll-election
  • politics @lemmy.world
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    Likability isn't enough

    www.natesilver.net /p/likability-isnt-enough
  • Lemmy Shitpost @lemmy.world
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    I think we've come full circle

  • politics @lemmy.world
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    Does Israel Really Believe It Can Win a War Against Hezbollah?

    www.dropsitenews.com /p/israel-hezbollah-lebanon-war
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    Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez suggests Biden should resign and drop out of presidential race

    www.kgw.com /video/news/politics/rep-marie-gluesenkamp-perez-suggests-biden-should-resign-and-drop-out-of-presidential-race/283-1d6b2914-661c-4115-bc64-4ccbc27b477c
  • politics @lemmy.world
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    Schiff says Biden has to ‘win overwhelmingly’ or pass the torch, adds VP Harris could win against Trump

    www.nbcnews.com /politics/2024-election/schiff-harris-win-overwhelmingly-replace-biden-rcna160591
  • politics @lemmy.world
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    Sen. Mark Warner Forming a Group Of Democratic Senators To Call On Biden To Drop Out

    www.washingtonpost.com /politics/2024/07/05/mark-warner-joe-biden-exit-race-democratic-senators/
  • Science Memes @mander.xyz
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    When you cite methods from your previous publications

  • cats @lemmy.world
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    Trouble makers

  • Selfhosted @lemmy.world
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    Getting started with self hosting - resources?