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  • Hehe, yeah. Fair. There is a very good chance that even with everything burnt to the ground, people would vote to take longer to try to go back to what is familiar rather than going for the quick fix that seems better on paper but has never been tested at full scale. And as you say, even if it got so far as to be emergency implemented to stop the hemorrhaging, there is very little chance it would last long enough to prove better before it starts to get dismantled out of fear that it's not... or fear that it is.

    I just would hope that at the point where there is a prominent uprising, it would come with a pretty widespread distaste for how it got there. That has historically been the case, a big pendulum swing the other way for a bit.

  • Trust what man? The one I say is bulldozing the entire government?

  • I'm guessing my wording wasn't great in the first one. Was intended as a follow-up in the same vein. I can rephrase with more detail if my point came across wrong.

    It sure seems like his plan is to basically get rid of every financial support. Once they are all gone, there will pretty much be an immediate revolution since so many people will have nothing to lose then, and then from the rubble left over, the only possible solution that could be implemented quickly enough to restore functionality is a universal mincome.

    Since there are currently like 100 different ways someone could qualify for financial support that basically add up to the same thing in effect, just with an insane amount of overhead. Restoring that in any kind of reasonable timeframe would be difficult, especially if the plan is to "accidentally" mess up while rewriting the database and "accidentally" delete all current data. I don't really know what other outcome to expect with them promising to completely rewrite it from the ground up in such a short time frame.

    I do expect them to at least try to get rid of as many social programs as possible, especially the ones directly doling out money. And if they do them one by one, they won't get very far before people rightfully assume "theirs" might be next, so doing them all at once as a surprise just seems like the only possible way to get rid of them all. And making it seem like an accident is the only chance, slim as it may be, that they have of even possibly getting away with it.

    One-third of the population of the United States receives some form of financial aid. 100 million+ people. I think that will 100% be an actual tipping point, even though so many things already should have been the tipping point. And once it tips, there's gonna need to be an "after". A universal basic mincome that you automatically qualify for without needing to jump through any hoops, just X amount of money until your income is at least Y amount, then reduced by a percentage/ratio until hitting 0 when your income is Z amount. (Indexed to inflation)

    All the tests of a universal mincome have proven that it not only works, but it works better than all current systems. But there are hurdles to implementing it from such a complicated current system, especially in all the cases so far where it was intended to only be temporary as a test. So, basically, one of the only silver linings that might come from what the US is going through right now, is a possible wide-scale implementation of a mincome, and once it is proven stable on a wide scale, more countries might have reason to implement it without bulldozing their whole world first.

  • He's bulldozing the way for someone to pave the way to universal mincome being accepted. The main hurdle it needed to overcome was how much beurocracy it would take to consolidate all other programs under one roof. If there are no other programs in the way, it all of a sudden becomes the easiest way to re-establish it as quickly as possible.

    Edit: I'm not one for changing posts once they have been read or reacted to, but it seems like my wording is not getting the intended point accross. Trump is doing a horrible thing, that once he is deposed may hopefully at least have a silver lining, if there even is an "after".

  • Who is "we"? I have nothing to do with the states.

    And yes, those wars were indeed still gonna continue happening at that moment in time, no matter who got elected. And some of those words I typed were links you maybe didn't click, cuz they very much do refute your points. And include how many wars he wound down and/or ended during his time.

  • Yes, USA has kind of sucked for a long time, it's starting to very suck now.

  • It sounds like you were the one checked-out, I guess if news isn't fed to you, you have no idea how to find out what happened.

    https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/01/03/obamas-top-50-accomplishments-revisited/

    His presidency did largely coincide with the timing of when drone strikes were starting to be possible to do.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/president-obamas-super-aggressive-drone-war-in-one-graphic-2013-12

    Would it be better to have used soldiers or missiles for those attacks instead? If you had the choice between sending people to do that job and some of them dying, or sending expensive missiles and killing a bunch of extra people, what's the downside of drones comparatively?

    Really, the main downside of his presidency is that he did such a good job, it pissed off racist people.

  • I certainly didn't specifically mean you as an individual. But I have a hard time believing you actually thought I did...

  • Obama was "boring", that is exactly what you want in a president. Just sitting there doing his job, not trying to get on TV or the news every damn day.

    Although if you did want to look closer, he was very engaging to listen to. So, not boring in that sense.

  • This comment, or a comment like it has been on pretty much every piece of trump/maga/doge news, and has been valid every single time.

  • At this point, yeah, a bit. But it is a common racism to have right now, and the first step on the path to getting rid of it is knowing you have it.

    Plus, the headline is really leading in that direction too, the article itself makes it pretty clear that it is a real, reputable product. Their wording in the headline is technically correct, they specifically call it a company "you've likely never encountered" rather than "noone has heard of", the company has already been at the forefront before and announced that they would be again in 2025, this is fulfilling that promise.

  • You are about 20 years too late for any of this to make sense. China tech is on par with other countries now. It is still lower cost for bad reasons alot of the time, but good quality tech is readily available now. You don't have to go very far up from the absolute cheapest unit price to get to the quality either, but of course, it's the American way to always seek out the absolute cheapest product, quality be damned. And the absolute cheapest will often come from China, despite needing to cross an ocean.

    A "made in America" sticker also does not carry the meaning it used to 20 years ago either. You can get some of the shittiest cheap stuff "made in America", it just won't be the cheapest shitty stuff, despite being made locally to you, since the company still needs to make sure they are infinitely increasing profits forever...

  • And they'll keep at it until the weather people stop making up that it's getting hotter. If they would just say "everything is ok, the weather is fixed now, we can go back to making money without feeling guilty" then they would stop getting fired. Easy problem to solve.

    /s of course....

  • Hehe, yeah. Well, it's not like there is a small amount of us. And that's without including all the people that just don't know yet. So, it still makes for popular comic material.

  • Your friends know you have an executive function disorder. They will still be happier to get a response eventually. There might be some gentle ribbing, but it'll be intended to be taken in stride.

  • Yeah, "well, there were other meetings going on which had to end first" and "there was absolutely no wait time at all"...

    I think I can discern what he meant but couldn't articulate, but if we have to interpret what a more capable person would have said any time the president speaks....

    But since we do have to interpret what he must have meant, my interpretation is that he was trying to say "there was reasonable justification for the wait time, it wasn't artificially increased as a power-play". Though a counter argument would be, that is exactly how a power play of artificially increasing wait times is accomplished. Instead of scheduling stuff so that people will be met with at a reasonable time given their circumstances, things are shuffled around to make the person unsure when they are supposed to go in. Enough so that they can't leave cuz it could be any minute, but long enough that they should feel slighted. 2 hours would be a pretty ridiculous slight. Making someone spend 8 hours in your lobby without leaving is overkill. That means the whole time they kept assuring him it would be soon. At no point did they give him any heads up that he could maybe safely go to lunch or dinner or whatever since it wasn't gonna be "that" soon.

    For these meetings, it is generally considered a normal level of respect for the meeting to occur within an hour of the plane landing. Especially for someone who should be incredibly busy and scheduled to have other meetings in other countries that same day.

    8 hours is fully, literally, toying with him. 100% showing how little they respect him and who he represents. 3 or 4 hours would have accomplished a complete and utter embarrassment... they wanted to set a record, just for fun.

  • Wu and Tang, eh? I don't know enough to know how plausible it is that those are their real names, but if so, then it's an interesting co-incidence.

  • What he means by "if he was in charge there wouldn't have been a war" is that he would have made sure Ukraine couldn't defend itself. It wouldn't have been called a war cuz Russia would have just taken it.