Compassion ~ Thought
Or else understood it perfectly...
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Excellent point, FartMaster69.
That might actually be true... but then you were the one who tried to do so? And now your words will echo on, years from now people can look up this old thread and see your back and forth fighting, and nothing will have changed.
Do whatever you want - I am not a moderator here, I just thought I would offer this perspective that your words might be working counter to what aim you first set out to achieve, before you got frustrated and lost your cool, and thereby your ability to influence people any further here.
Most of us left Reddit several years ago now, but isn't this still one of the top refrains across the Threadiverse? Besides fuck tankies, cars, and conservatives I mean, there is fuck spez? Very "impactful" then, plus were not his actions the epitome of what you described - to get his while the getting was good, no matter what he might destroy in the process? So, locally great, not so much to ring through the ages, unless someone asks how the threaded forum-style Fediverse got its start.
Isn’t English an awesomely terrible language?
Abso-fucking-lutely so indeed!
Tbf, I don't mean to suggest that data centers are going to bring about the end of all life on earth as we know it... at least not alone, though they may hasten that end goal rather than stave it off, especially locally for people who increasingly have less agency over their lives, particularly in the sense of securing sufficient water.
So then... Hitler was a great man? So too is Donald Trump, Elon Musk, and even Steve Huffman (spez from Reddit)? You've also heard the name "Pol Pot" before... so by that definition, he is great as well? By that definition, I am forced to agree with you.
Although why are we using that definition again? The large majority of the definition according to https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/great seems to point rather in the opposing direction.
- "remarkable in magnitude, degree, or effectiveness", "great bloodshed", "caused great damage" - this is the one you seem to be using
- "used as a generalized term of approval" - again, this seems the opposite?
- "chief or preeminent over others", this might actually apply but then we get into what "over" means, so I'd rather choose a different one instead
- "markedly superior in character or quality" -> HELL NO, unless again you get into the meaning of "superior", and/or of "quality"
Basically you seem to be using "great" to mean "remarkable". Yes, such a CEO would be "remarkable", I agree, but I disagree that they would be considered "great". Although beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder, so obviously I do not mean to suggest that nobody will consider them great, just that most people probably would not, for the reason that they got theirs while leaving others to hold the bag. Especially since "others" in this case may doom all mammalian life on earth to if not extinction then "great" curtailment of quality of life (as well as ability to live at all).
No I said "zerg" (don't mind my long reach here, I'm just trying to find a premise to work in this gif...), like this:
You are not helping your cause by emo-venting here. Go back up and re-read the OP title - I'll wait.
So long as people have anxiety over AI issues, including ethics and water usage, then the people asking questions have a firm foundation for their statements. Why not (gently) invite them in, to know what you do? Curiosity is an amazingly adaptive trait in humanity, and they might be genuinely ready to listen to a well-intentioned answer. But you are turning them away not so much with the content as the tone of your responses, essentially proving them right that pro-AI advocates froth at the mouth at how AI will overtake humans rather than use logical argumentation practices. But why put forth Musk's words here, on the Threadiverse?
If you can keep your head while the rest of the world loses theirs...
What the pro-AI people always tend to argue back at comments like yours is that:
- you used the wrong AI - it should be
<insert preferred model here>
- probably Claude at this point in time, for programming? i.e. the implication being that you are some old man who yells at clouds and does not know what they only learned themselves <6 months ago, as if that knowledge entirely invalidates your own lived experiences even in the last ~4 weeks. - you used the wrong parameters / queries. When applied to the equivalent of Google searches this seems a false claim to me because those used to be fairly brainless, whereas sometime soon Gemini is going to start charging $$$ in return for being able to find anything remotely helpful on the internet, but for now they would like it pretty please if you would help them train their model, before they turn around and sell it to you, and others (isn't it glorious how you are allowed to help share in the work part, without proportionate access to the reward at the end?).
Tbf you probably did use the wrong queries for the programming questions. It seems to me to be like someone who actually lets a "self-driving car" drive by... itself? Like you are supposed to pay money for what is marketed one way but the reality after purchase is quite different, and if you e.g. run over little children then it's not the fault of those who sold you a "self-driving car", but rather (legally speaking) yourself who should not have allowed the car to drive by itself - how dare you not know better! (Despite being told precisely such with a nod and a wink)
The AI hype is real, and false, though despite that LLMs are quite a capable tool, if ignoring the hype and used under much more constrained circumstances than the hype would lead us to believe (despite the hype surrounding AI, rather than LLM technology itself, being the literal point of the OP though?).
I stumbled upon this randomly and enjoyed the read: https://www.structural-integrity.eu/is-there-a-need-for-ai-after-capitalism/.
wasn't it to the zerg?
"Question & test everything against what you know to be true." (Science, bitches! 🤪)
There's a formula for abortion in the old testament somewhere - look it up.
"Love one another, do not load heavy burdens upon others. Carry one another's burdens. Wash people's feet. Husbands submit to your wives. etc." - ooh boy, Christians are going to be really mad when they get around to reading the Bible!!
People can be so dumb. Religion can help alleviate that problem somewhat by encouraging skeptical thought and acts of service and a sense of community... or it can help a horny person diddle little kids, but obviously this is religion followed incorrectly. Religion offers adaptive value, to help people go beyond tribal antics and consider the needs of a wider society, or to open our eyes to greater truths. Though tbf it does seem more often than not to be followed incorrectly, more's the pity.
I love the nuanced approach here - neither pessimistic nor optimistic but rather realistic. Then again, I would strongly question the utilityn here or even definition of "great" - except you were just using it in an explanatory sense, so I get what you mean, but like for a corporation to achieve "success", at the expense of an enormous number of workers let go... is that really "great", truly?
Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder and I see such ugliness, even while I also see potential for truly great good as well. It is definitely not the "fault" of the tool, but rather the wielder, although either way I see why people have anxiety, when they consider the ways that the tools are currently and actively being used against their interests.
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Perhaps some admins would not care, but:
- Whether some admins help or not, users still have the choice to go somewhere where other admins do
- Anyone can become their own admin, ultimately
Neither of these are trivially easy, I don't mean to suggest that, just possible.
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OP already answered this: not at the present time.
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That was not why lemm.ee died. That one was lack of admins, presumably due to their choice to become a "free speech haven" where all voices were allowed to be heard. But then having given in that far to incel culture, nonetheless still trying to pull back to stop short of becoming another 4chan. The burden on those admins was INTENSE, and they simply gave up.
Btw, PieFed already offers a number of tools that helps reduce the burden on human mods to make decisions easier.
One example is an indicator that reports the likelihood that a user's content is generated by AI.
Many other tools reduce even the need for moderation in the first place, e.g. iirc if someone receives 10x more downvotes than upvotes, a visual icon is added next to their username to indicate that they are known as a contentious user. Note this is not a filter, just a label. As as end-user reads through comments, upon seeing this they are warned that having a deeper discussion with such a person is unlikely to be considered pleasant, by the majority of others who have done so in the past.
Another feature example is keyword filtering - if someone wants to remove all content containing the words "Trump" or "Musk", then rather than downvote or report it to mods for its removal, they can have it removed at the level of themselves, thereby substantially reducing the burden of mods for such things as e.g. having to keep politics out of unrelated (comics?) communities.
Still another pair of examples is the ability to automatically collapse or even hide comments that fall below a given vote threshold - personally I have these options off, but if someone were to want that for themselves, then the tool is available to them, again independently of any need for moderator intervention. And the user likewise controls what that threshold is, rather than the mod having to make a single call for everyone in the entire community.
PieFed's democratization of moderation features are breathtakingly awesome to behold - Reddit and even Lemmy (+ Mbin, nodeBB, etc.) have nothing that even comes close! And note that article was even written two years ago (but I will stop myself short of making my comment a billet-doux on PieFed, instead just saying that it has long had this automation already).
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I disagree: ultimately it can be, if users choose instances that defederate from those who allow their kids to use AI tools. (Autocorrect changed "mods" to "kids", but I think I will leave it that way bc it's funnier 😜)
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For some of us, power carries with it a certain level of responsibility. 🕸️
For others, it is just a fun tool to wield over the fates of others. 🐒 And AI lets them do that with less effort. 💤
Plot twist, that is someone else entirely who just happened to be
walkingdancing by (while "you" are still in the car).