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  • Yes that - the second one, as shown in your image - is what I mean. Lemmy offers the option to show upvotes separately from (& adjacent to) downvotes. PieFed's tooltip approach fails to work for me something like a fifth of the time, at least on PieFed.social. At least a third of the time it will not work even if I click the number >10 times at varying cadence, although most of the time then if I zoom in and carefully hit precisely the number rather than the general area it is in it will work. Ofc that could be coincidence like a server connection issue that manages to work upon subsequent clicks regardless of how I approached hitting the number.

    Regarding showing who delivers the downvotes - that can be quite useful sometimes as well. I just had a serial downvoter go through every comment that I had made recently, across a wide swath of communities from memes to Fediverse matters and news and politics etc. - ironically they had never once posted and only made 3 comments in I think it was 3 years, yet they had downvoted people sth like 20k times and only upvoted iirc <3k total, so I seriously doubt that I was the only one that happened to. I want negative feedback the same as I want positive ones, but like... delivered as an adult, using words (at which point others piling them on only adds assent & therefore weight to that spoken position), not this childish "I don't like your politics so I am going to downvote everything you've said for days, without even telling you why".

    Voting really is an imbalance of power if someone can do things like that, but the recipients have no power to block it. It has a chilling effect upon social media bc people will either speak less often, knowing they will receive those, or else grow such a thick skin that even a veritable flood of downvotes affects them not in the slightest. I don't like either of those options.

    Though I suppose there is an argument that people could too casually block others for offering downvotes... or something? Honestly I don't quite understand that - anyone can find out who it is, with just a little bit of effort (e.g. I could make a post in a community that I moderate, so then when my serial downvoter strikes then as a mod I can see who they are, even if not as a user; or ultimately if I installed my own server then I could casually inspect the votes of everyone on every post or comment everywhere), this information is not "private" and there seems little reason to not place tools into people's hands to balance out this otherwise inequitable relationship?

    But anyway I'm not pushing for it - I just hate to see how like powerful people (e.g. jordanlund) have all this ability to see and do things (e.g. see people who downvote and block them), but what can the common person do? Although some of this seems to be based on the misunderstanding that accounts that you have specifically blocked cannot still vote on your content, whereas now I think that they can. There seems nothing that can be done about that.

    Btw Mbin shows who offers (links given for a randomly chosen example post): upvotes aka favorites, separately also Increases, now seemingly called Boosts, but will only show the total count but not who offered them for Reduces (I don't know if a mod can see these, obviously an admin could but I don't know whether via this same interface).

  • Impressive!

    I did get excited thinking that it might show downvotes, but now I see that's only for admins.

    Do you plan to expose downvotes received on each post/comment to the user? I've been through every single theme and setting on PieFed.social and could never find a way to display those - although I don't know whether other PieFed instances can already do differently or not (they definitely don't show by default in places like PieFed.zip).

    Fwiw I think people would be very happy to see their downvotes separately from upvotes, since e.g. +10/-9 is quite a bit different scenario than simply =1 overall (controversial vs. total lack of engagement). Technically this is already possible but the tooltip display is exceedingly janky and does not work at all a good fraction of the time, when when zoomed in like 10x (which helps at least sometimes).

    Anyway it's always neat to see a "new project", even if as a fork this is only kind-of half of one, it still counts in terms of offering new opportunities to users, which is always a good thing.

  • As complete as you will believe it to be!

  • In this case they are. "Real

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    ...-ly drones"! 📸

  • We are destined to forever see one another yet never to touch again... wow, shit got dark quick!

  • It was from 3 weeks ago, thus high time to bring it back - dozens of times, maybe hundreds!?

  • Bonus meme:

  • Or alternatively: It shows that handle on one specified instance, e.g. always from your Mastodon home instance.

    Fwiw, PieFed already translates URLs on the backend so that visiting content from a foreign source will take you instead to the local copy.

    Also this post might be tangentially interesting: https://piefed.social/post/1285215.

  • I feel like I've seen this meme before... perhaps dozens, maybe hundreds of times, it's impossible to tell?

  • Funnier but not quite the vibe I wanted to go for, so this one just for the lolz 😂

  • It makes sense! Even though the result is even sadder as it means that literally all websites will be exposed to the same form of attack - the web is truly an unfriendly place these days:-(.

  • Tbf it is every male's fantasy to be a hero:-)

  • Ah that makes perfect sense. LW also gets a ton of hate, as too does PieFed, so I can well imagine trolls going so far as attacking it (obviously that's my conspiracy theory hat on, but who knows - although "death to the infidels" does seem to me like it may include some light hacking of infidel-owned machines if they can get away with it... - yet it being purely due to AI scraping is unfortunately equally plausible)

    What gives me pause about the instance is that the list of Categories I thought was empty for many months, and now is still quite light. Like, whether I would use any of those or not, it seems a signal that the instance admins have other priorities than to get around to such minor matters. Now I begin to see a bit of why. That earlier exceedingly unfriendly disclosure of code vulnerabilities - with zero advanced notice - may have also caused a lot of stress too.

  • You forgot the most important question of all: in this scenario, am I also a doorknob? It turns out that solves a lot of the other issues...

  • Is PieFed.world unstable or something? I am genuinely interested in hearing more about that as I had considered making an account there.

  • oh no, not again.

  • Skill issue.

    git guud

  • I'd love you better as a doorknob...

    turns out to be the wrong answer, and I can't find the undo button 😞

  • No! Eat the dog instead, as this meme instructs (memes are never wrong).