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  • Wow. I forget that there are babies on the Internet, now.

    There were back-end web frameworks as early as the 1990s. The Internet started long before JavaScript existed.

    God I feel old, now. Fuck. Lol.

  • Ruby was the really hot one.

    .Net accomplished very similar outcomes and caused a lesser version of the same hyperbole, a few years earlier.

    Yes, both are called frameworks.

    Of course, I'm going from an old person's memory, so who knows or cares? You can learn from my experiences, or not.

    If you check my post history, you'll see plenty of evidence that I am, as claimed, a cranky old software developer.

    I don't see why anyone would want to pretend to be me. It's not that much fun.

  • Except that it's not the syntax that makes programming hard, it's the thought process, right?

    Exactly!

    And, of course, AI doesn't help with the thought process at all, but did made the syntax much simpler to deal with, once again.

    So - once again - people who don't understand what you just pointed out, now believe we don't need programmers anymore. Just like the last several times that we "didn't need programmers anymore", for basically the same reason.

    I understand that we rinse and repeat the same nonsense for networking, systems administrator, etc, every few years. Some people genuinely believe that the computers are someday going to magically start understanding themselves for us.

  • Which frameworks? 😂

    Ruby on Rails was probably the peak of the hype wave. It had a tutorial that any manager could follow to build a simple data driven website in minutes.

  • I'm an apprentice to both your ways.

    I create a tidy backed up script in ~/bin, and then I only ever evoke it from my bash history, because otherwise I don't remember I had it.

  • Lol. Even among those less stupid, most didn't hire junior developers for the last three years, to hedge their bets.

    Well, it's three years later, AI didn't solve shit, and we are facing an entire missing cohort of senior developers.

    We've seen this before - back when web frameworks "made all of us obsolete" back in 2003.-

    Here's what comes next:

    Everyone who needs a senior developer gets to start bidding up the prices of the missing senior developers. Since there simply aren't enough to go around, the "find out" phase will be punctuated.

    Losing bidders get to pay 4x rates for 1/3 the output from consulting companies.

    Cheers!

    Source: I was made obsolete by web frameworks so hard that I entered a delusion where working with web frameworks just let us produce bigger buggier websites even faster - and where the demand for web developers skyrocketed and I made some seriously respectable money while helping train up junior developers to help address the severe shortage.

  • Oof. Still too soon.

    In my heart, he later finds someone else's glasses, and sits reading happily on their makeshift grave.

  • Heh. The "burn it to the ground" bit is in the critical script I never documented properly.

    I didn't leave anything undocumented on purpose, but my job is just actually hard, so there's always something.

    When it comes up, they find out - how good of a boss were they?

    They can dial my personal number, leave a message, and wait to find out.

  • It's the future now. All restaurants are Taco Bell.

  • There's been a lot of whistle blower "suicides", lately.

    For the official record, I definitely believe the official story in each case. And I always stay the hell away from third story windows.

  • Well what things can a group of adults really do that are both not lame and boring, and also not illegal

    There's some non-secret societies, like Rotary Clubs, that try to do some volunteering, professional networking, and charity work together.

    Also, for the under 70 crowd, there's Maker spaces.

  • Nice.

    My version is not as good, but may amuse you as thanks for sharing your story.

    I once started a joke secret society in an MMO, only to be forgotten within a day, and then (gleefully) be reinducted a couple days later by a total stranger as a new member.

    The induction nonsense had changed enough within that couple of days that I think I made a pretty convincing new recruit.

    Though I think I caused some confusion when I changed outfits - I forgot that I had not yet "been told" the secret dress code. Oops. I think everyone then realized something was up, but chalked it up to secret society intrigues.

  • Just time for another bath!

  • If you're looking for some search terms, you're looking for the Unix philosophy, and Unix pipelines and command line patterns.

  • Sweet. I'll check it out. Thanks!

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    Edit: Was I typing into mute? Oh well. I don't remember what I said, but I remember it was brilliant and hilarious.