And they can look at any small business, be it product, art, any book anyone writes, and they can flood the market, crushing you and profiting of the thing you made. Can people not see how this goes both ways and how this would destroy any desire for creation, knowing rich people will just take it and stomp you out immediately?
Imagine you write the next Harry Potter book or some shit, you're catching on and getting popular and now it's gone. A different company is printing your book and you don't get any money. They're making movies off your book and you get nothing. You go to stores and see merch from your book that you wrote that you'll never see a dime of. This is the world you want? Where the rich can easily just take anything with no defense from the creator?
It doesn't exist? I can write a book and someone can steal it. I can develop a product, shark tank style, and just have a big company steal it.
The fact that you think someone should be able to write a book or make art and not own it is crazy to me. That's just letting rich people own everything because the have enough money to stomp you out.
Oh I get it. We made the jump from Google Cloud to AWS, and I'm sure there are companies that are even more vendor locked. But a good example of what people can do when they don't have a choice is the new PCI 4.0 roll out that has cost companies millions they wouldn't spend unless made to do so. Will it be a mountain to climb and cost a ton, yeah, but change in the right direction isn't always easy.
I'm with you, it will be hard, and they need a good system for extensions and the like, with a reasonable time line. But this is good change IMO, even if it's painful.
This is why you give notice; this isn't an overnight thing. If anything, this would help strengthen and decentralize hosting platforms while giving a huge amount of business to companies to help them migrate. I think the real shake is going to be those locked into provide IP like Redshift or Fargate.
I mean what do you expect people to do? Honestly? If you use guns then the response will be massively violent. Have you seen how police here act during peaceful protests? The reality is a lot of people are just trying to survive and stay alive.
Damn, don't hate me but I've never seen it, so the quote went over my head, my bad. That's a damn good view on things though. I gotta make time for that one.
Well first off, I listed many riots and it only takes one instance of one existing for what you said to be wrong.
Secondly, there were instances I listed of people who rioted for rights they already had, but we're doing it for others. Full stop. This was done with many rights movements I listed. Who started them and why is irrelevant, they did the thing you said they didn't do.
Holding signs and singing chants in the streets doesn’t change anything but it can easily be framed as a justification for more police and military spending to “maintain order and peace”. If you consider the elites who actually control the flow of commerce, it’s a net loss for the protestors who only have their jobs to risk and possibly jail time and a fine. In fact, the State applies Deterrence Theory in this way to keep the public from rioting and it has, so far, been extremely affective in the modern era.
I don't get how this is relevant to our convo... You said people don't riot unless directly impacted. I showed instances of where they did. Why are we talking about state responses to peaceful protests?
Oh, and those hippies who protested the Vietnam War were a small percentage of white middle class youth that went on to be corporate leaders in America, many of whom are the primary antagonists we deal with today.
Source for that bold claim?
I’ll end my rebuttal simply stating that the examples you’ve mentioned involved people who consciously viewed themselves as interconnected with those they were protesting alongside of. This is something we severely lack in today’s social-political climate; a shared consciousness, which is what a grassroots movement requires.
..... So you'll end by saying the thing you said never happens does in fact happen, but you don't think it will now. I mean, I agree, but that wasn't the topic at all. It can happen, and it has happened. Saying it never has is wrong and not only ignores people throughout history who put their lives out there, it also sends a message that it's not possible. It is. We've done it before and we can do it again.
A lot... Trying to act like none of your life choices matter due to government BS is a sad look at life. Many of the choices you make matter, what you do matters, it can all make a difference.
Historically, the only people who have ever rioted were people who were directly affected by said issues.
Really? The only people? Throughout history. Bold claim...
I don't get why people make these grand statements then push off any burden of proof to those that might disagree, it's dishonest. But just so everyone else doesn't fall for this misinformation, here are some:
Abolitionist Riots (19th Century, U.S.)
Many white abolitionists participated in violent riots against slavery, even though they themselves were not enslaved.
Example: The Cincinnati Riots of 1836 involved white and Black abolitionists clashing with pro-slavery mobs.
Anti-Apartheid Protests (South Africa, 20th Century)
Many white South Africans and international activists participated in riots and violent protests against apartheid, even though they were not personally subjected to the system’s oppression.
Vietnam War Protests (U.S., 1960s-70s)
Many young people who were not drafted or eligible for military service still participated in violent protests and riots against the war.
Example: The Days of Rage (1969) in Chicago, led by the Weather Underground, saw middle-class activists riot against U.S. militarism.
Civil Rights Movement (U.S., 1960s)
Some white activists participated in violent actions alongside Black activists fighting for civil rights, despite not being personally discriminated against.
Example: The Cambridge Riots (1967) saw white activists and Black residents clashing with authorities over segregation and economic inequality.
BLM Protests (2020, U.S.)
Many white and non-Black protesters participated in riots and violent clashes with police over racial injustice, even though they were not directly affected by systemic racism.
I can keep going if for some was reason that isn't enough for you to understand that your statement is wrong. Either way, please stop spreading misinformation.
I think it will be interesting. Seniors who voted for this asking to be taken care of by people who may not have voted for this but have to help you survive your bad decision. My dad has never been much of a, well, father. We chat, but not much. I certainly would not turn my life upside down to support him.
No we don't know, that's not what knowing means. You're assuming. Thinking you're right doesn't mean you know the future. JFC, you're the one auguring to be right about what will happen in the future. News flash, no one knows, if you could know the future I'd use it on more meaningful things lol.
And they can look at any small business, be it product, art, any book anyone writes, and they can flood the market, crushing you and profiting of the thing you made. Can people not see how this goes both ways and how this would destroy any desire for creation, knowing rich people will just take it and stomp you out immediately?
Imagine you write the next Harry Potter book or some shit, you're catching on and getting popular and now it's gone. A different company is printing your book and you don't get any money. They're making movies off your book and you get nothing. You go to stores and see merch from your book that you wrote that you'll never see a dime of. This is the world you want? Where the rich can easily just take anything with no defense from the creator?