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  • Also there were 217 votes by Senate Republicans for it, and there are only 212 democrats in the house, so once again, impossible

  • Yes, remember when you gave me the information to look up the Senate? How would I know to fact check a link you didn't send

  • And why do you think Democrats stopping a budget in North Carolina has anything to do with stopping Trump.

  • For example 52 Republican senators voted for the Laken Riley Act. - that means it is impossible to block

  • Nope, I looked up the vote numbers by party. Both federal bills outside of the crypto required no Democrats support. It's just reported that way in those articles because they want to point out that their are shit Democrats.

    The North Carolina budget I know nothing about, what they spend money on in their state really has nothing to do with the federal governments agenda.

  • Also for your breakdown:

    Lake Riley act Democrats couldn't have blocked

    The North Carolina budget (not federal) has a Republican Senate and Congress as well, can't verify what the party line votes even were

    crypto bill: Democrats helped pass bill to put "guardrails" on crypto currencys.

    Gender affirming care, Democrats couldnt have blocked

    So what we see from your examples is that Democrats are worried about Crypto as much as Republicans are.

  • You have no idea what I believe in, you just don't like that I pointed out that the Democrats can't block any of this without Republican support.

  • Israel sucked so bad because the truth is that the majority of the Democrats supported Israel when the war started, and by thr time 50%+ didn't, it was far to late

  • Can you give an example of one where enough Republicans voted against that it would have failed? If that didn't happen yes it is a betrayal to their party, but it doesn't mean they could have blocked it. (which is what people are asking them to do in this thread)

    (edit to throw in) also It feels like a betrayal to us because we are further left than the Democrats, but the Democrats have a lot of overlapping views with Republicans, which if your voter base has 60% support and 40% against (things like Israel, it sucks but that politician is supposed to vote for Israel)

  • No, I'm not saying they hold the monopoly on obstruction. Every Republican bitched for 4 years during Trump's first term that Democrats blocked everything. (He didn't have the Senate and Congress Majority from 2017-2021)

    Democrats shouldn't have approved trump nominees, but even if they voted against they would have been approved by the majority of Republican votes. The one notable flop that Democrats won was Matt Gaetz not getting in.

    Also this thread was about Tarrifs, but like I said there are many really shitty Democrats politicians out there, it doesn't mean they can block anything without getting Republicans to turn their votes against the party

  • Note that doesn't mean there arent shit Democrats who vote for right wing ideals by the way, there are many

  • Your information is false and that's why you think I'm lying. Show me 1 time that the Democrats held Congress and the Senate since 2009. If you win Congress and lose in the Senate it goes no where. I think you are completely failing at understanding how our government works or are as you said. A bad actor.

  • Every Dem just voted no on that stupid Bill, did nothing because they are the minority in both houses.

    It worked when the Republicans did so, because they were the majority in one of the houses and have been since 2009.

    So for 15 years they have been able to block anything they wanted. And it was only for 2 months really in 2009. Before that was 1993.

    A lot is/can happen right now because there will be at least 2 full years of the Republicans holding both parts of the legislature.

  • I think it comes down to 2 parts, one being that tarrifs is what were used prior to income tax in the U.S., the time when "robber barrons" thrived and could grow their wealth easily. So the heritage foundation is trying to drive down income taxes and reintroduce tarrifs so they can legally make as much money as possible while not having that money they pull in pay for America's well being. The second I believe is that the money starts in a separate pile, and ultimately goes to the treasury still, but previously since that "pile" had far less in it before it will look like the government is collecting a lot more money when directly comparing that pile to that pile over than last 50 years. So he can say he increased our revenue by bolognanumber% to show he is doing well, while ignoring that higher costs decreased purchases which in turn decrease states income from sales taxes. So states will make less, and be more dependent on the federal government. Which if the states don't fall in line, the federal government can/will disperse funds unevenly to states who don't lap the federal governments balls.

    So it comes to a game of taking from the working class and states money/rights as much as possible to keep them fully dependent while growing insanely rich, but not pissed off enough to rebel, or if they do.. not have enough resources to be able too.

  • I'm neither but I'd love to hear how you believe Dems can put a stop to these tarrifs? It's either A. Presidential power (which I don't believe it is) or B. Congressional power (which is Republican majority)

  • Well the issue is they gave the actual trophy to Trump in March. It has been sitting in the Whitehouse since. Even if Trump lied about asking when they were coming to pick it up, the Whitehouse isn't someplace you just leave an object for a little while. First I imagine the secret service would want to review the device wasn't bugged being in the oval office... Second you can't just drop by to pick something up from there easily. Scheduling all that shit would be more annoyance than just making 2 up front probably.

    Note: Trump did remove historical artifacts sent by Israel from the White House and move them to Mar-A-Lago, so I don't believe that this will end up in the National Archives like the article stated, it will end up as his property.

  • True, I'm just used to hearing either Cray-on or Cran (like cranberries)

    Also I know I struggle with colors sometimes... But I don't see green or yellow on that map, just red and blue... Is that just me haha

  • Most people usually aim them to cover corner to corner, then the wind blows from any direction and it goes further onto sidewalks. Then there are the ones (usually owned by the neighborhood or city in my experience) that water the sidewalks and roads and manage to only hit 15% of the grass.