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  • I'm not talking about engineering a problem away. I'm saying it can't be engineered away and requires human adults in the room (moderators in this case) to handle bad behavior.

    Accepting the presence of toxicity as a fact of life does nothing more than attract more toxicity.

  • I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but it sure seems like you're saying that toxicity can inevitably be found in every little gesture in our daily life, including internet platforms, which is a narrative I disagree with.

    People can have a fight on the street, or in a pub, in a shop, at work, or wherever

    Pretty much all pubs and shops I know quickly expel and ban people who fight there. If those places allowed fighting (as many internet platforms do) users looking for a fight would eventually gravitate there, and people looking to discuss peacefully will go elsewhere.

    Do you really think tech is the issue?

    No, I'm saying people are the issue. Toxicity is not something that can be found everywhere, it only pops up where it's allowed to flourish.

  • My belief is that toxicity online is like building a six lane highway through a residential neighborhood. If you build the infrastructure to support more cars, and the law allows speeding you're going to get more cars (and more car accidents).

    If you build platforms that don't allow cars/limit their behavior where people are trying to have a polite conversation, you'll see quiet more thoughtful modes of transportation and fewer innocent bystanders get hurt.

    Wow that analogy worked pretty well.

  • Beehaw's admin and mod team is a great example of how strong moderation encourages, not discourages, good conversation.

  • I’m not positive that you can do much outside of simply (temporarily or permanently) banning people who are acting shitty.

    You can also ask that your admins defederate instances where shitty-acting people are allowed to set up shop.

  • Well fucking said!👏

    We really need to grow beyond the idea that blocking is "censorship". That only (arguably) applies to large centralized platforms. The fediverse allows all voices to speak but it doesn't force everyone else to listen.

    The fediverse gives us huge individual and collective power and we can use it to grow beyond the constraints of the old platforms.

  • ...What's the different opinion Anakin?

  • I don't buy this narrative that toxicity is inevitable. That's the narrative pushed by Reddit/Xitter/Meta because toxicity causes engagement which makes them rich. They don't want to delete it. It's only inevitable if admins allow it to be.

    That "rule" don't apply on Fedi where we can simply join an instance that actively bans all the bs.

  • And report content you don't like to your admins!

  • Block and report. We're all in this together!

  • As you said, decentralization is key. Highly active human moderation is the only known solution to keep communities free and tolerant, and human mods have a relatively low limit as to what they can handle without making it a full time job (or burning it out)

    The Lemmy network is still centralized enough that many smaller instances make the calculus that it's better to be federated with the large weakly moderated instances than to lose access to the many small communities on those instances.

    But increased decentralization makes more granular defederation possible. A weakly moderated instance can simply be blocked.

    I think we'll get there in time.

  • I read it twice and it still doesn't make sense

  • Yes exactly. Within the MAGA universe loyalty is paramount. What the do looks strange and contradictory to us, but in the universe where one man decides reality, the more you can make that reality a well, reality, the more valuable you are. Even in defeat.

  • This may be a dumb question but isn't OTA TV still basically exactly what you describe?

  • I was about to point out Greg Bovino, but he was allowed the opportunity to "retire" whereas reports are saying Bondi was denied that.

  • I'm not so sure, the entire modern GOP culture prioritizes loyalty to the leader above all else (even the stock market!) I think it's possible these lieutenants understand that taking the fall for the leader will be viewed by the party to be an act that demonstrates the depth of their loyalty (and therefore helps their future career).

    EDIT: Giuliani I think is probably an exception along with some other characters like Mike Lindell that actually are too dumb to understand what's going on.

  • They must know that their primary role is to take the fall for Trump, right? Their job is to absorb the blows and bad press (and sometimes literal bullets), and once they get too much baggage they get dumped. It's mafia style governance.

  • CWA largely removes the need for running Calibre.

    I use CWA for the main book "hub" and upload everything (audiobooks and comics too) to it. Then I have audiobookshelf scan the calibre directory, and Komga do the same because the app I use for comics (cdisplayex) doesn't sync with Koreader yet.

    On the client side I use Koreader, Lissen and Cdisplayex.

    It works fine but it would be nice to have one app that syncs all progress. And my holy grail is one that can sync ebook and audiobook progress like Amazon's whispersync!

  • Excited for the official KDE Distro. I am a big fan of Fedora Kinoite but will probably give KDE a show once it is out of beta.