You're actually right about it being a Palestinian proposal. It was proposed multiple times since the late 1920s, and even during the meetings of the 1947 UN partition plan.
Books:
Nur Masalha - Expulsion of the Palestinians: The Concept of Transfer in Zionist Political Thought 1882-1948
Simha Flapan - The Birth of Israel Chapter 1 and 2
Ilan Pappe - A History of Modern Palestine Chapter 3 and 4
It's almost like 19 is the median age, due to the ongoing apartheid and ethnic cleansing, and Palestinians have only ever known life under the violent supremacist Zionist occupation.
how would you describe Rogan's behaviour and the fact that this particular act had zero impact on Rogan's popularity?
It's absolutely concerning. Rogan, aware or not, is promoting fasist propaganda and revisionism.
The alt-right influence online has played, and continues to, normalize this kind of fascism for many people in the US. The systematic erosion of the education system in America, not just higher but all the way to elementary, has played a major role in this. Not for Joe, that may be the WWE lol, but certainly for the audience. The atomization of people also play a big role IMO. People have far fewer friends and groups IRL nowadays. I think that is absolutely making parasocial relationships, like with podcasters (or any other online personality) far more common than it would be otherwise.
That 'more moderate path' has been an abject failure, as evident by the election.
Neoliberalism ideology is what has paved the way to rampant fascism in American politics. Neoliberalism, and even liberalism for that matter, will never be a successful opposition to fascism. Being beholden to corporate interests, at the expense of the voters interest nonetheless, will and has only ever normalized if not accelerated fascist policies.
The only way to have a genuine opposition to right-wing populism is by running on a platform of left-wing populism. Ignoring the material harms people are experiencing and aware of is a losing strategy.
Left-wing populist positions are overwhelmingly popular, they are even popular with independent and Republican voters. Those positions directly benefit everyone in the working class. The only issue for the neoliberal administration in charge of the DNC is that those policies come at the expense of billionaires and massive corporations, the people who fund their convention and races to secure their interests over the general population.
Human rights is nonnegotiable. If anyone is willing to throw a group of people under the bus for any reason, they are no ally.
If the DNC prioritized running on those popular policies and actually attempted to earn as many votes as they possibly could by offering concessions to as much people as they could, they would have won. Trump would not be president. We wouldn't be funding one genocide while ramping up concentration camps for 'enemies within'. But the DNC has proven themselves to priorities their corporate backers over the people. Only a small few like Bernie, AOC, and The Squad are genuinely interested in opposing the fascism of the Republican party. If they gain control of the DNC, we may have a chance out of this through legislation and reform. If the DNC continues to prop up corporate interests over progressives, then the way out will become much much bloodier.
Fascism does not compromise. Appeasement is the problem. Opposition is necessary.
Edit: after seeing your other comment, I'll provide polls that support my point, on the large support of both on the weapons embargo and on left-wing populist policies.
But demanding opposition to genocide and neoliberal policies is purity testing!
Why can't the left just accept liberal capitalism instead of purity testing human rights?
Surely the problem is with leftist individuals who hate liberalism so much they must secretly support Trump.
It couldn't be any systemic or material issues that have compounded over decades, leading to populist sentiment and opposition to the status quo, as people demand solutions to the cost of living crisis that they've seen only ever get worse. It was surely not a mistake to not run of overwhelmingly popular democratic socialist policies that would've directly addressed those issues, or run on no weapons embargo despite it's overwhelming support. The DNC did nothing wrong, it's all the voters fault, especially those anti-genocide ones. Who cares if they had loved ones killed by Israel, they should have known better, it's a simple trolley problem.
I would always defend the US as a force for good in the democratic world (albeit a very flawed one) and highlight that compared to other major powers (russia, china), the US has been involved in a very good outcomes (post WW2 Germany/Japan, Polands and the Baltic nations after the breakup of the USSR).
As an American who used to think that until I learned about the unabridged history of US domestic and foreign policy, the US has absolutely not been a force for good. In many, many cases, far from it.
Knowing Better has many well made videos on the domestic side, including company towns, neoslavery, and the Indian removal.
In addition to the history of propping up fascist dictators for the benefit of US corporate business, the US has also backed and materially support multiple genocides
There is of course also the war crimes the US has committed against the populations of Afghanistan, Cuba, Korea, Iraq, and Cambodia. Among many others
But Rogan's behaviour is an example of degeneracy. True degeneracy. Not degenerate as a random insult or say the term "degenerate gambler", but the actual term like in the dictionary. A regressive, undesirable behaviour that is an affront to the development of human society. And this is perhaps the largest media personality in the US.
This has nothing to do with degeneracy. Outside of STEM, this term has no real use. 'Social Degeneracy' goes back to scientific racism and eugenics and has been used historically to dehumanize.
Rogan, and practically every other alt-right podcaster, are reactionary and conservative. They are pro capitalism. Even when they acknowledge the material harms that people face, since they can't rightfully recognize that capitalist exploitation is the root cause, they instead scapegoat minority groups such as immigrants, lgbt+, and pro-palestinian protesters.
Reminder that Douglas Murray is a committed conservative who is very supportive of fascism, as long as it has the 'right' victims. So much so that he's gotten an award by Isaac Herzog in 2024.
Murray has been a supporter of Israel's military response to the October 7 attacks by Hamas. He spent around 6 months in Israel, visiting Gaza twice, and writing in defense of Israel's actions.
Murray said "conditions for Muslims in Europe must be made harder across the board: Europe must look like a less attractive proposition." and that "All immigration into Europe from Muslim countries must stop." Murray's former coworker at the Centre for Social Cohesion, James Brandon, interpreted this speech as calling for the collective punishment of Muslims
On top of everything above, the snark against any criticism of us foreign policy, the DNC, or neo/liberalism has been getting really gross. Completely overriding any genuine discussions or nuance about the topics.
I got perma banned by pugjesus on one of his comms for defending the blowback podcast and the journalists who created it
There were many polls, prior and during the election, that showed how popular a weapons embargo to force Israel to agree to ceasefire was, and has only grown as the genocide continues. All despite the constant manufacturing of consent from mainstream media, downplaying if not ignoring what has been happening
I think addiction is a key aspect. Like with gambling there is of course that aspect of responsibility, but regulation to minimize harm is also important.
All the major social media apps being designed to exploit that dopamine response is kind of like junk foods being the most common due to being subsidized; of course people just shouldn't eat junk food, but we should make healthy options the most prevalent and common instead.
Of course that would require a government that would actually force corporations to implement harm reductive measures, instead of one bought by and working for corporations...
FOSS alternatives like Lemmy, Pixelfed, and Loops should be much healthier due to no algorithm working to maximize engagement. I also think social isolation is a big part of the addiction aspect, at least in America
You're actually right about it being a Palestinian proposal. It was proposed multiple times since the late 1920s, and even during the meetings of the 1947 UN partition plan.
Books: