Your position has changed many times throughout our discussion, from faulty use of Fisher's theory, to raving about dominance hierarchies and now you've settled on "the theory is outdated".
The theory is not in fact outdated because it's based on historical materialism which is widely accepted among academics and has proven itself to be true. In fact dialectical materialism was extrapolated to form the basis of the conflict theory which many sociologists use to explain 'why' and 'how' conflicts develop in society, like between different races, the patriarchy etc.
There's an argument to be made that the economic system that is "socialism" is outdated, but that's another argument; the philosophy underlying it however is not. Every Marxist whether anarchist, Leninist, syndicalist and so on agrees that capitalism will end; everyone's just arguing about whose type it's going to be.
Any form of socialism is not feasible without human consciousness evolving into some kind of singularity
Bruh what😂.That's just not true. The workers only need to be class conscious. That means they need to realise that they're oppressed and must revolt. That's all that is necessary. We've gotten close many times, but those opportunities have been squandered. Once again, i refer you to the Occupy Wall Street movement which started to put capitalism back into the minds of the working class.
by claiming the proletariat would dominate the bourgeois. If socialism is about the worker owning the means of production, there is no bourgeois class, except for the worker.
The bourgeoisie would be in a constant bid to reinstate itself throughout socialism. This fight not only exists within the state's own borders, but outside of it. This is the main fight. That is what is meant by this. I don't have quotes on hand, but I can find you specific Marx quotes if you're adamant about it.
Mate your ignorance is glaring here. There are many socialisms. There's Marxism-Leninism which warrants a vanguard, there's anarchism which believes in decentralisation, there's democratic confederalism which is a fusion of the state and decentralisation. You're so ignorant it's not even slapstick.
This is why you're not intelligent. You're wrong, but some dogma is holding you back and i don't know what it is.
No idea what you mean by dominance hierarchy pal. As far as i know, the working class has the revolutionary potential and will seize the means of production when pushed to the brink.
Climate change is accelerating this reality
Also what nonsense is this about the working class always being inertial? There are plenty of moments within history where the working class was in pole position to start an uprising. You're the one ignoring history here. Occupy wall Street was literally that. Bernie Sanders fucked up the moment by being a lapdog to the democratic party
That quote undermines nothing of what I've said😂. You've taken Fisher out of context like most idiots do. The point of capitalist realism is that the ideology of anti-capitalism and capitalism sustains itself because people are led to believe so. Capitalism fails all the time, like when the market crashes, but governments bail them out because to them that's just how it is. To them the system can't fail because they can't fail because they can't envisage another outcome.
Capitalism realism is just an extension of Marx's theory of false consciousness. Which is when the actions of the proletariat do not align with their actual class position.
This is why it is necessary to sensitize the working class towards socialism, otherwise, capitalism realism happens, where people convince themselves there's no other alternative. It's a diagnosis of a problem, but dimwit ms like you misquote Fisher.
Capitalism falls to whatever solves the contradictions between the working class and the owners of capital. Most likely some form of socialism
Your dominance hierarchy has nothing to do with this. The working class has the revolutionary potential, so it is necessarily the working class who will seize the means of production and we end up with socialism. That is Marxism in a nutshell
Your brand of idealism is that capitalism is unbreakable. That we've reached the final stage of history. This is fatalistic and therefore idealism. Go to school kid
Brother you literally cited capitalist realism like it supports your claim when the guy who coined the term was a LITERAL SOCIALIST HIMSELF. You're not educated about anything.
Other economic systems fell as a result of contradictions between classes. The roman empire fell because there were no lands left to pillage and no slaves left to misuse. Feudalism fell because the peasants wanted to be free labourers and the lords wanted money and not agricultural products. Capitalism WILL fall because there are contradictions between who owns the means of production and those who are subject to it. This contradiction is being accelerated by climate change and the global south is experiencing the brunt of this.
Shut the fuck up and do some reading
You don't even know what the term idealism is😂🫵. You think I'm using it to call a system great or something. You're a halfwit!
Seems like that's all you've got dictionary definitions and Wikipedia pages. Have you read any books?
And yes the ideas you espouse are idealist because they aren't based on an objective look at how things actually develop and fall back to reductive phrases like "human nature"
It is what it is. The world is arguably better with them than without