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  • They stole my voice with AI | Jeff Geerling

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  • And it's a landlord's job to collect rent. It's Elon Musk's job to maximize shareholder value.

    It's ok if you watch out for numero uno. I'm not expecting more. But you are wrong to think that this doesn't affect you. You can't opt out of society. You won't be able to avoid products with licensed voices. Your taxes will be paying for enforcement against "pirates". And most importantly, every new privilege for the rich and famous changes society. With every step, the elite becomes more entrenched and the bottom more hopeless. It's a matter of enlightened self-interest. If we only reject what directly hurts us individually, then the elites will simply build themselves a new feudalism.

  • They stole my voice with AI | Jeff Geerling

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  • Do you want the rich to be richer? Because that's how you make the rich richer. People like Scarlett Johanson will be able to license their likeness for millions or billions. Of course, we would have the same rights; the same rights to own a mansion and a yacht. Feeling lucky?

    That's the kind of capitalism that Marx rages against: Laws that let people demand money without contributing labor.

  • Why are people seemingly against AI chatbots aiding in writing code?

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  • I got a lot of listening lined up but I'll add it to the list. I hope they offer some statistics. Flying has become a lot safer over the years. I'd be surprised if automation works against the trend rather than for it.

    Thanks for the answer.

  • Why are people seemingly against AI chatbots aiding in writing code?

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  • I know about this crash and don't see the connection. What's the argument?

  • Lionsgate’s New Deal Is a Test of Hollywood’s Relationship With AI

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  • This isn't sci-fi AI. It's not going to use itself. It's a new tool for digital artists, including VFX artists. I expect it will benefit them by making them more useful.

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  • That's what's so depressing about lemmy. People convince me that there is some genuine issue that should be addressed. The mob grabs torches and pitchforks and goes to demand that... Money be given to rich people instead of changing anything. It certainly makes you understand why the world is as it is and that it will only become more so.

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  • I see how I misunderstood.

    This conception of individual rights seems rather ad hoc. I don't think I could have guessed that that's what you meant, rather than copyrights.

    I don't see the connection to copyright, in any case. How does fair use interfere with anyone's right to earn a living? And if it does, why support the Internet Archive?

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  • As far as I can tell, this community hates open models just as much as any others. Some seem to hate them even more. That's the point about this "nightshade" tool.

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  • Copyright is the same for everyone; corporations or people, rich or poor. Financially speaking, this issue has close to 0 to do with individual content creators, much less struggling ones. They are simply not the big content owners.

    PR companies know that people care about the individual. So when they shill for a law, they will send in some individual. It's never about money for corporations or the rich, but always about the "hard-working American"; and then say hello to some Joe, the plumber. I can see why artists on social media would discourage their followers from going to the competition. But the whole copyright angle won't save anyone's job.

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  • I may not be understanding the logic here. It sounds like your issue is control. You want to have control over media you bought, and you want to have control over AI models rather than just a subscription.

    There are a number of open models. As far as I can see, these are also largely rejected by this community. In lawsuits against their makers, the community also sides against fair use.

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  • Why isn’t the fact that AI is largely garnering the same responses even from DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED GROUPS telling you something about how bad of an idea it is in it’s current incarnation?

    I'm not seeing anything remarkable from organized groups. For example, the Internet Archive and libraries favor strong fair use. The copyright industry obviously sees this as an opportunity to expand property rights against the public interest. Tech companies have always been on either side, depending on their particular interest. Basically, everyone is on the usual side, just as you'd expect. Only on social media are things kinda weird. I don't think people are considering their own interests, but I really don't get what drives this.

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  • Yes, but it's still not quite clear. Arguably, when you pirate rather than paying, your profit is the money saved on the purchase. Courts tend to see it that way.

    Besides, Meta releases its models for free and I don't see them getting less flak. In fact, when they were sued by the NYT corporation looking for a profit, people still sided with the profiteers.

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  • White-collar workers were cool with machines and poorer nations taking blue-collar jobs. Now that it threatens them and their money, the hypocrisy is on full display.

    Heh. Yes. It's even beyond hypocrisy. Many will outright say that automation is supposed to churn over these "dirty, boring" jobs while making their own lives better. Even finding themselves on the receiving end of progress, they don't call for a better social safety net. No, they just want to get rent for their property. I wonder how much copyright industry has to do with the steady move to the economic right, through its huge influence on culture.

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  • Hmm. That's not how the US legal concept Fair Use works. What do you mean when you say fair use?

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  • You have a corporation that doesn't want to spend money to care for individual copyrights, or even lose customers over it. That describes ISPs. Still, people side with the corporation.

    When you say individual rights, you, of course, mean copyrights; intellectual property rights. Giving property such a high priority is such a clash to the otherwise anti-capitalist attitudes here. It's not just pro capitalist. It's pro conservative capitalist.

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  • I never understand how this community relates to copyright. It's all the freedom of the high seas until AI gets mentioned. Then the most dogmatic copyright maximalists come out It's all anti-capitalist until AI is mentioned and then the most conservative, devout Ayn Rand followers show up.

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  • Much of Europe (ie the rich parts) is free of terrestrial rabies because of such programs. Bats really get around, though.

  • “Model collapse” threatens to kill progress on generative AIs

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  • Yes, I shouldn't bother replying in these threads. In truth, I've already given up on this community but sometimes when I'm bored I can't help a little peek. Maybe in a few years, some of the smarter ones will wonder why nothing ever came of this. Anyway, be careful with those AI detectors. They don't work and sooner or later someone is going to get in trouble over that.

  • “Model collapse” threatens to kill progress on generative AIs

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  • There is no problem with ingesting synthetic data. Well, at least none coming from the fact that it is synthetic. If there was a fundamental difference between the 1s and 0s encoding synthetic data and the 1s and 0s encoding any other data, then you could easily filter it. But there isn't. The ideas that this community has are magical thinking.