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The Irish constitution in the past explicitly allowed abortion in the case of a mother's health being at risk
Christianity has been the cause for wars.
Rarely. Usually it's politics. But yeah, a war happening around the biggest ideology in the world is probably a natural outcome.
And can argue that morality comes from god, which is insane since god doesn't exist.
Basically just the reddit argument "theists are insane, therefore I'm right". This isn't an argument against Christianity
scientists were punished by Christians for proving actual facts, or even just suggesting them. Again obviously a scientific theory does not deserve punishment whether right or wrong.
Extremely rare, Christians basically invented the scientific method. Modern science exists because there was a belief in a lawgiver, so those laws can be studied.
The same is true today, where the basis for the major opposition to abortion in western democracies is Christianity.
That's because many people believe that foetus are valuable human lives. It's not exclusive to Christians, although Christians by default would think that because they actually have a moral understanding. And due to demographics, then yeah, they'd be the most noticeable force.
Even sometimes demanding the banning of abortion in situations where continuing the pregnancy will mean the death of both the mother and the fetus! Only religious beliefs can make people so irrational and evil for no benefit to themselves.
Thanks for at least saying "sometimes". I've never heard this to be the case. Worth mentioning that this scenario itself is also extremely rare, to the point of single digits on national levels per year.
AND these people even believe they are doing the right thing, because they are deluded. Being deluded is inherently dangerous, not only to the person who is deluded, but also to people around them, and society as a whole. Which is easy both because the people believing it are delusional and easily fooled, and because scripture is so full of self contradictions, that you can pick a side.
This isn't even an argument against Christianity. It's not rational or reasonable at all.
But lets just remember that scripture not only allow slavery, it actually condones it.And the recommended action if a women is suspected to have been unfaithful to her husband, is to poison her to prove her guilt or innocence, if she dies it is considered proof that she was unfaithful.
Nice bit of equipment there. How much did that cost you?
The bible is not medieval, because that would be way more modern, it is not barbarian, because it would be way more civilized.
Basically all of our morals in the west is based off of it. So not really.
The bible is a bronze age superstitious attempt to explain reality, and with zero understanding the only explanation they could come up with was of course superstitious, and in this case based on an "almighty" god. And in the exact same manner they tried to make rules and define morality, but with very little understanding of anything, except of course the understanding common in the bronze age.
Again, this isn't really an argument. Something being old doesn't mean it loses credibility. It's like saying Julius Caesar didn't exist because the evidence for him is from the Iron age...
Worth mentioning Jesus was from the Iron age, not the bronze age.
This is the guide Christians choose to follow, and don't try to gas light me into thinking that doesn't have negative consequences.
It would if we read the Bible the same way you seem to read it... With this
not teaching that LGBT is OK, is failing to help LGBT people against bigotry whether it's from Christians or not. The fact you even mention cohabiting people is astonishing, as if there was any reason whatsoever to be against it!?
This is a doctrine of Christianity. The Churches that do what you wish are essentially vaguely spiritualist humanists, populated by old people who still think "christian" is a synonym for "good"
It is not the bronze age anymore.
This is where humanism fails. Morality changes, as per the culture and time. In some ways, they can even just be flat out colonialist with trying to force their culture on others. There are examples of times when things which were morally horrific were accepted by the culture. People twisted scripture back then as those "progressivists" are doing now. The fruit comes from the same tree.
The difference is, Christians have a justification about wishing to "save" people whether you agree with it or not.
Humanism is based on ethics that evolve with increased knowledge from scientific evidence. For instance the bible teaches us that animals have no soul, and for that reason Christians can conclude it is OK to mistreat animals, because they don't actually feel anything. ( For instance Descartes)
Scientific evidence on the other hand, show this to be very clearly false. The emotions of many animals are almost exactly similar to our own emotions. And anyone who isn't a deranged psychopath can see that with their own eyes.
As for your theological issues, that's just Christian doctrine, but you massively misrepresented it. Most religions believe in good and evil (such a thing is absent from atheism) and Christianity just makes a point about everyone being evil, and a divine forgiveness. It also takes away the stress and provides comfort to those scared that they're not "good enough" for heaven
I haven't found anyone in the Manosphere who is Christian. Maybe some can be found who claim the label. You even had some insanity like Andrew Tate trying to say "Christ is King" when he's a Muslim - Even the Babylon Bee was making fun of people who embrace Andrew Tate and his teachings
As a matter of fact, I attended a men's bible-study last night, and of course, the manosphere was mentioned and immediately labelled as unchristian and heresy. I have been to Christian men's conferences and the same happened there. In fact, it basically comes up during any Christian men's events, and even has been brought up during Church sermons and studies where the crowd was mixed.
Worth mentioning some of these events were ecumenical as well. I watched the Louis Thereoux documentary on it, and their way of life and attitude of women seemed so Godless. So I believe for young men who do crave tradition and purpose, having them become a Christlike man and looking to Christ is the far better outcome than them using Tate as their rolemodel.
I think a better world would be found when we remove ourselves from these ancient notions of the world around us.
I would disagree. For many, these ancient notions are what fuel a lot of good. They keep people going. I can look at the Manosphere and simply reject it as their teachings are incredibly unbiblical and not in line with Christianity. Same with Nazism, white supremacism, MAGA, etc. Which, for a lot of young men in rural areas, may be their only alternatives. I am of course not speaking of all leftists, as that would be a strawman. But there has been aspects of these movements which have tried to push men away and demean and despise men. Thankfully, I believe leftist movements are becoming more accepting of healthy masculinity and men, but it was still an issue that was perceived by many. There has always been stigma about "straight white male" or "cis men". I did have former friends demean me for being a "cis man" years ago. For some of these people, if they seek community where they are accepted for being a man, a moderate Church is generally a pretty good option.
I am starting to get that impression.
What is the threshold for inclusivity, though? For example, my Church does have gay, trans and cohabiting people in the congregation, but we don't necessarily preach that these things are okay. However, it is worth acknowledging that everyone is sinful, so we cannot cast the first stone (referencing John 8:1-11 here) and that we aren't saved by being perfect either. Afaik they aren't even excluded from membership. They are people made in God's image whom Christ died for also.
I doubt the world would be better off with secular humanism. It is all generally based on opinion.
There are movements like The Manosphere which I feel would have been a lot more influential if it weren't for Christianity
It could even be a cultural thing- a lot of the hurt I hear comes from the USA. A lot of UK ex Christians (if they even identify as that) were just culturally Christian and were just bored by Church
Also, I am sorry that you went through that.
Ehhh I'd doubt it. Your average Christian isn't violent and/or greedy. It's just the ones that are make the news as it generates clicks. As someone who is actually a Christian, I see non-christians bring up strawmen of things they have seen in the media which I have never seen in real life.
It's also worth realising Christianity is the most populous religion in the world- so things that happened were more likely to be perpetuated by self-proclaimed "Christian" leaders manipulating scripture purely for their own benefit. Things would arguably be worse if another religion had this amount of followers and influence.
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Mainland China is actually quite nice. Only place I've been outside of the UK. Barring Poland ages ago... That being said, Poland is also nice.
I don't think it's possible to be centrist on an issue such as Abortion
They Cut the Mothers Eyes First
It's just how food industries work I guess
They Cut the Mothers Eyes First
Interesting. I wonder who found out this technique and how
At first I thought it was a joke, it actually is... Albeit not towards humans
This instance looks like a month old though. Some people for example, self host wordpress blogs and have ActivityPub on them.
In some ways, I think context also matters. For example, you can debate a topic theologically in a different manner to politically. So for example, "dancing is a sin in flaxifarianism, and we should hold to flaxifarian values within our temples" in a flaxifarianism community is different to saying "dancing should be politically outlawed" in a general community, or worse, one dedicated to dancing.
If you're smart, you can get around quick bans via timezones. And defedding small instances or not allowing single user instances is completely contrary to the idea of the fediverse.
It's happened to me, I have gotten banned from communities just because I was banned from other communities, one of them even says "check the modlog"
Didn't some kid make a nuclear reactor in a shed