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Flamekebab

@ Flamekebab @piefed.social

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  • Should I teach students who doesn't know computer science C or JavaScript first?

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  • Calling me out on a clarification when you're banging on with ad hominem rubbish?

    Respond to the point or bugger off. I'm not here to impress you, you're not my dad.

    Third, that sloppiness and failure to pay attention is only reinforcing my initial impression.

    A good engineer knows when the details matter and when it's just wasting everyone's time. Would you classify responding to someone being needlessly hostile as something other than a waste of time?

    If anything you should be criticising me for choosing to spaff more time on this conversation.

  • Should I teach students who doesn't know computer science C or JavaScript first?

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  • Hah! You picked the two of your that list that I actually do care about.

    • pointers * allocation * reference vs value * recursion * stack * panics, errors, error propagation * data structures

    I don't know what pointers are. I don't care about memory allocation. Recursion rarely comes up.That's not the kind of codebase I work with. I guess I'm not a proper big-boy programmer 😢

    Anyway, your snide remarks about my abilities aside, that doesn't address my point at all.

  • Should I teach students who doesn't know computer science C or JavaScript first?

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  • I've been working as a software engineer for years and not once have those "fundamentals" been relevant to the work I do.

    If I question their usefulness then I don't think it'll sit well with no experience at all.

  • Should I teach students who doesn't know computer science C or JavaScript first?

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  • I didn't find the difference in fundamentals between Python and C to be substantial. C felt similar but more unintuitive and more annoying to work with due to having to compile.

    Understanding exactly how the sausage is made didn't help me in the slightest. It was needless complexity when I already had a lot to digest.

    I understand your perspective but for me it was like throwing up countless roadblocks to the point where I lost all enthusiasm for the subject.

    It was many years before I tried again, this time with JS and Python.

    These days I'm a professional software engineer.

  • Should I teach students who doesn't know computer science C or JavaScript first?

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  • I was taught a bit of C and still don't understand why. I see the use of C but it feels much too low level to be useful for the kinds of things I might want to do.

    Python and JS are much more relatable.

    Edit: I'm getting a lot of hate for this "hot take" for some reason. I don't know what to tell you, people learn this stuff differently. For me the "from first principles" approach framed programming as something I shouldn't bother with because it'd be forever until I learned how to do anything useful with it.

    To me C and C++ seem powerful but it feels like having to invent the universe before I can get anything done. I'm not working on embedded systems or something.

  • French programmers be like:

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  • TOML

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  • I prefer writing JSON by hand. The whitespace stuff in YAML is just such a nuisance as far as I'm concerned, which is odd as I have no problem with it in Python.

  • TOML

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  • As someone who works with YAML regularly:

    Fuck YAML.

  • TIL drinking, smoking, games, etc are all "social lubricants" for making conversations easier.

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  • Internal monologue ≠ thought

  • What Happens to Linux After Linus Torvalds? We Finally Have the Answer to This Uncomfortable Question

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  • GitHub was founded in 2008 so nearly half its life it has been owned my MS. Yeah, "recent" doesn't feel like a good fit here.

  • What Happens to Linux After Linus Torvalds? We Finally Have the Answer to This Uncomfortable Question

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  • I thought they bought GitHub ages ago?

  • Immich 2.5 Released With Free Up Space, Web Backups

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  • Nice! I'll update my container and give it a go.

  • Wildlife cam setups?

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  • Hmmm, an RPi with a camera might well work. The problem there is more the amount of work I'd need to do - I haven't got that kind of time right now.

  • Wildlife cam setups?

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  • An honest answer that it's not currently easily doable is in and of itself useful.

    This is a "nice to have". I figured I'd ask preemptively so that I didn't go down a blind alley. Thanks!

  • Wildlife cam setups?

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  • I would be buying. The cam I borrowed wouldn't fit the setup I want, I just mentioned it because I want that functionality but without the hassle of pulling the SD card.

    So far it doesn't sound like what I want exists, unfortunately.

  • Wildlife cam setups?

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  • That essentially boils down to "build your own solution", which under my current circumstances amounts to "don't do it". Not that I lack the skill or will but the spare time and energy I have is used on my baby daughter. I can't justify rabbit holing on something like this.

    It's why I created this thread - to see if there's a software and hardware combo that solves this with minimal additional work.

  • Wildlife cam setups?

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  • WiFi would be easily sufficient. We're talking a distance of 10m from my router, tops.

  • Wildlife cam setups?

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  • I borrowed a camera - it's not the one I would be using for this.

    That's why I'm asking. I haven't bought anything yet and don't want to get the wrong thing.

  • Wildlife cam setups?

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  • That would be possible, yep.

  • Code Is Cheap Now. Software Isn’t

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  • An interesting way to try to spin disposable spaghetti code as a positive.