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FiniteBanjo

@ FiniteBanjo @feddit.online

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  • My theory is

    and I could be wrong, maybe it's just a couple of weirdos,

    but my theory is it's another Tankies psyop trying to convince people that "overpopulation is a western conspiracy to reduce the number of non-whites" or some shit. It would make sense given China's sudden promotion of population growth being criticized as well as their immediate allies like Iran backsliding women's rights and education (the core pillars of reducing population growth).

    After arguing with them in here for awhile I got 15 notifications of being banned from communities.

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  • I didn't tell you to rephrase anything. Let's end this here.

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  • Ask better questions, ig. Do I look like I'm running for governor? Idk what you think should or should not be happening, but the answer has absolutely no impact on what is happening now and what we know will happen as a result: human overpopulation is real, it is the driving force behind ongoing global ecosystem collapse, we know of many safe and friendly methods to reduce birthrates.

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  • less capita = less emissions

    Chinese leadership are trying to promote population growth, again.

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  • You mean the “natural decline” that is already haappening.

    Correct (except for the spelling), users such as you, OP, and Elon Musk are advocating against that. You're part of a movement called pronatalism.

    Also what “upwards mobility” - Capitalism is hell bent in killing us all - the upwards mobility is not the solution here.

    I have used the word capitalism exactly 0 times in this discussion, so you have no reason to assume the methods of naturally reducing population has anything to do with it, stupid tankie.

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  • does it involve a concept of degeneracy and normalcy?

    It involves a natural slow decline in human population via methods like empowering women's rights and widely available education and upwards mobility in society. The solution that the UN came to in Cairo, Egypt, in 1995.

    The fuck are you talking about with masks and normalcy?

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  • Well I can compare your anti-population-reduction stance to Elon Musk. Do you feel good knowing that Christofascist and Technofascist oligarchs hold the same view as you?

    As for your absolutely bonkers claim that sustainability isn't directly proportional to population size, I feel need to argue such a blatantly false statement.

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  • You're gonna sit there and tell me it's fine if only 5% of mammals are neither human nor livestock? That's a horrifying thought alone, it means we've consumed or destroyed all of nature that we had the capability of doing such to. We should not be the 95% under any circumstance. We should not be 50%. We need there to be nature, we need there to be a natural order.

    For the record, the larger groups are fish and arthropods. That's it. Sauropsida or Reptiles and amphibians are such a small amount of biomass that they're completely negligible.

    BTW, it's super cringe when you call the advocacy of women's rights and education as "Fascism". You know who else fights against the idea of allowing or promoting population decline? Christofascists and Technofascists like Elon Musk, they're pushing for population growth instead.

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  • The core premise of overpopulation is that humans can no longer produce enough food to sustain its people.

    No, it absolutely isn't that, idk where you even got that from. The core premise is that it is unsustainable for any reason.

    Producing food is one reason for evidence of current overpopulation, as I mention 50% of the world's food production is with synthetic ammonia sourced from mining and petrochem which are finite nonrenewable resources.

    Another reason is that the world ecosystem sustains all life including humanity, and when it collapses the human population will collapse with it.

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  • Did you check it again?

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  • NP we good.

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  • Somebody who covers their drink when you're around.

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  • Personally I'd say 10% each humans and livestock, or some similar ratio such that wildlife remain 80%.

    Another option is to return as far as the proven stable number of 2 million humans total, though that would take many many many generations to do and isn't even guaranteed to be better for the environment since sometimes forest management and natural disaster response can actually be helpful.

    Definitely lower than 2 billion. It's going to take a lot of figuring out since we clearly have no idea what number will bring global ecostability.

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  • They also sell the rainforest lumber, but lifestyle changes aside we should always pursue a lower total population via lower birthrates until we can restore natural order.

    China was a developing nation a long time ago, and since 1700 their population has grown 11x over, and now they produce more emissions and utilize more landmass than any other nation on earth.

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    1. It doesn't have to be one or the other, we can tackle multiple solutions simultaneously.
    2. Developing nations have proven to increase their carbon footprints over time, e.g. China, so the fact that they're the fastest growing populations on earth is a serious issue we can address with solutions such as: empower women's rights and advancing access to education and upward mobility in society. That was the same exact solution that the UN came to in their meeting in Cairo, Egypt in 1994.

    EDIT: 3. less people consume less beef also

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  • It's also just wrong, humans use half of all habitable land for agriculture alone. Unless everybody moves to Antarctica doubling it would result in destroying literally all of nature on habitable land.

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  • Overpopulation is not a myth. 36% of the earth's mammalian biomass is Humans, only 5% is wild mammals. 71% of avian life is livestock. https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

    Half of all "habitable land" (which includes everything except deserts, tundra, salt flats, beaches, or exposed rock) is used for agriculture. Half of all land, for agriculture. https://www.weforum.org/stories/2019/12/agriculture-habitable-land/

    Industrial farming is not sustainable at the current rate and relies on either mined or petrochemical derived ammonia which supplies the nitrogen necessary for protein. Synthetic Ammonia alone feeds half the world population and requires an additional 2% of the world's power to produce.

    The global ecoystem is in rapid decline.

    I gave up finding appropriate sources halfway when I realized this post will just get removed eventually.

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  • It's just blatant disinformation.

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  • They have a permit for that?