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  • Folks in IT. This is one of those “deploy something enterprise grade because you can” type of scenarios. It’s like asking why somebody would play a dry milsim game like Arma when Call of Duty exists. This will cost you more than a simple VPS on a platform but it wouldn’t exactly break the bank either.

  • Buy HDD on sale now or wait for Black Friday?

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  • Black Friday is a decent deal if you’re buying a larger volume of drives. If you’re only planning on buying a few, you don’t have to wait for to. That being said, a ln unimpressive sale is better than no sale.

  • Tucson City Council votes 7-0, unanimously to kill controversial Data Center

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  • Ah yes, just stop using the internet.

  • The AI bubble is so big it's propping up the US economy (for now)

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  • Thats like saying ride hailing and food delivery is not profitable because Uber is not profitable in the US.

    Uber is profitable and has been for years now. They also never faced the insurmountable challenges that AI companies do today.

    work in a profitable AI company and can list you a hundred more.

    No you don’t and no you can’t. If you could, you would have done so by now.

    No startup is profitable - thats by design because profit seeking is not what makes your company successful.

    Startups generally have a plan and realistic path to profitability, unlike the AI companies of today who are not profitable, and have no concrete plan to become so. The “profit seeking” investment phase is what startups survive on until they reach profitability. But many (most) startups do not do so and go bust. The same will happen to AI if they don’t become profitable.

    You may continue to live in your fantasy world based on nothing but hope and strong feelings, but you’ve failed to educate anyone here on anything besides your own ignorance. You are free to stick your fingers in your ears and your head in the sand.

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  • Of course I used the company that is the market leader in AI as an example that AI companies are not profitable you donut, that’s how that works.

    They’re not the only AI company that’s not profitable, like I said none of them are. You can take your pick if you don’t like OpenAI as an example.

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  • Delusion? Ok let’s get it straight from the horse’s mouth then. I’ve asked ChatGPT if OpenAI is profitable, and to explain its financial outlook. What you see below, emphasis and emojis, are generated by ChatGPT:

    —ChatGPT—

    OpenAI is not currently profitable. Despite its rapid growth, the company continues to operate at a substantial loss.

    📊 Financial Snapshot

    • Annual recurring revenue (ARR) was reported at approximately $12 billion as of July 2025, implying around $1 billion per month in revenue.
    • Projected total revenue for 2025 is $12.7 billion, up from roughly $3.7 billion in 2024.
    • However, OpenAI's cash burn has increased, with projected operational losses around $8 billion in 2025 alone

    —end ChatGPT—

    The most favorable projections are that OpenAI will not be cash positive (That means making a single dollar in profit) until it reached 129 billion dollars in revenue. That means that OPENAI has to make more than 10X their annual revenue to finally be profitable. And their current strategy to make more money is to expand their infrastructure to take on more customers and run more powerful systems. The problem is, the models require substantially more power to make moderate gains in accurate and capability. And every new AI datacenter means more land cost, engineers, water, and electricity. Compounding the issue is that the more electricity they use, the more it costs. NJ has paved the way for a number of new huge AI datacenters in the past few years and the cost of electricity in the state has skyrocketed. People are seeing their monthly electric bills raised by 50-150% in the last couple months alone. Thats forcing not only people out of their homes, but eats substantially into revenue growth for data centers. It’s quite literally a race for AI companies to reach profitability before hitting the natural limits to the resources they require to expand. And I haven’t heard a peep about how they expect to do so.

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  • The revenue of AI lies in mass surveillance and ads. But even going full dystopia, that has not been enough to make AI companies profitable.

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  • AI as a technology is so far not profitable for anybody. The hardware AI runs on is profitable, as might be some start ups that are heavily leveraging AI, but actually operating AI is so far not profitable, and because increasingly smaller improvements in AI use exponentially more power, there’s no real path that is visible to any of us today that suggests anyone’s yet found a path to profitability. Aside from some kind of miracle out of left field that no one today has even conceived, the long term outlook isn’t great.

    If AI as a technology busts, so does the insane profits behind the hardware it runs on. And without that left field technological breakthrough, the only option to pursue to avoid AI going completely bust is to raise prices astronomically, which would bust any companies currently dependent on all the AI currently being provided to them for basically next to nothing.

    The entire industry is operating at a loss, but is being propped up by the currently abstract idea that AI will some day make money. This isn’t the “AI Hater” viewpoint, it’s just the spot AI is currently in. If you think AI is here to stay, you’re placing a bet on a promise that nobody as of today can actually make.

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  • I mean we haven’t figured out how to make AI profitable yet, and though it’s a cool technology with real world use cases, nobody has proven yet that the juice is worth the squeeze. There’s an unimaginable amount of money tied up in a technology on the hope that one day they find a way to make it profitable and though AI as a technology “improves”, its journey towards providing more value than it costs to run is not.

    If I roleplayed as somebody who desperately wanted AI to succeed, my first question would be “What is the plan to have AI make money?” And so far nobody, not even the technology’s biggest sycophants have an answer.

  • Proton’s Lumo AI chatbot: not end-to-end encrypted, not open source

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  • Better URL, sensationalist post that doesn’t mean a whole lot

  • Proton’s Lumo AI chatbot: not end-to-end encrypted, not open source

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  • People are usually aware enough to know that seeing Unicode characters in a URL looks wrong even if they don’t know why. Pair that with Punycode’s reputation for being abused by malicious actors and some clients not even showing the Unicode, and you have a link few are going to want to click on.

    It’s not that I don’t understand what you’re saying I was just commenting on the fact that nobody is going to want to click that link.

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  • Yes lol. Nobody is going to want to open that link.

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  • No chance anyone’s clicking on that link

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  • As far as I know they have not handed over any emails.

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  • You’re right that they can see the emails in transit if you’re not using encryption, but they never said they can’t. They are as secure as they can possibly be, and are honest about what’s secure and what’s not. I would leave Protonmail at the first sniff of trouble but I just haven’t seen anything that concerning.

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  • I mean we know from documented events that Proton doesn’t store you emails in plain text because there have been Swiss orders to turn over information which they have to comply with and they’ve never turned in emails, because they can’t.

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  • They support IMAP. Which means, IMAP client can read your mails from the server.

    Proton mail does not support IMAP. Because your emails are encrypted on the server.

    Again, unless you add a layer of encryption (assuming the recipient understands it, too), it's plaintext. On the servers.

    Protonmail doesn’t claim that non-protonmail email is end to end encrypted. Any emails sent to a regular email without third party encryption will be plain text through the SMTP server, but they don’t store it. So in this case they are still not storing your emails in plaintext. Your recipient will, but that’s out of Protonmail’s control.

    shows up in full plaintext on their SMTP server. Whatever they do after that (and we've established it's not client-controlled encryption), they have access to it.

    You’ve not established that at all. Protonmail stores that message with client side encryption and they have no access to it. Nothing you’ve brought up here suggests that anything is stored in plaintext on Protonmail servers.

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  • There is no way to retrieve your mail using IMAP on a regular client if they're encrypted on the server.

    That is probably why you can’t retrieve your emails using IMAP from a regular client.

    And Gmail can retrieve your mails from proton using IMAP. It's even in their own (proton's) documentation.

    I don’t think it can. Where in the documentation did you find that?

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  • Ok yeah thats a far cry from Proton actually “Having your unencrypted emails on their servers” as if they’re not encrypted at rest.

    There’s the standard layer of trust you need to have in a third party when you’re not self hosting. Proton has proven so far that they do in fact encrypt your emails and haven’t given any up to authorities when ordered to so I’m not sure where the issue is. I thought they were caught not encrypting them or something.