Skip Navigation

Posts
2
Comments
1574
Joined
2 yr. ago

  • Democrats have won multiple times since Carter and we’re still broke and rent is still insane.

    Have you considered that maybe part of the reason is that we keep slingshotting back to Republicans every other cycle and they do what they do best and fuck everything up, exactly like they're doing now?

    It's massively disingenuous to imply Democrats don't do anything. They have a PROVEN track record for being better for our economy. They've regularly bolstered social support programs. They passed the ACA/Obamacare, which definitely helped me when I was younger. They've worked to forgive student loans. They don't make a hobby out of violating Constitutional rights. They don't send masked goons into our cities to kill Americans. They don't threaten our allies. They don't impose tariff taxes.

    They aren't perfect, and clearly we should expect more out of them, but they definitely do get shit done and are a WAY, WAY, INFINITELY better option than Republicans and, realistically, the only other option on a federal level.

  • If you’re thinking of a scenario where magically a majority of voters all vote for a third party

    That's literally what they're implying. They're straight delusional. And, unfortunately, there's a LOT of voters and non-voters out there that are as well.

  • I would argue that any party is a more serious option than red or blue

    Not if they don't stand the remotest chance in hell of winning.

    All it takes for a party to get traction and votes is popularity

    Oh, is that it?

    and popularity can be farmed in a day

    Ok, you're just delusional.

    if a bunch of famous people with millions of followers would start advocating for a third party

    Hey, it's like if every single worker in this country agreed to take part in a national strike, then worker's demands would be met the next day. Oh wait, that's a fantasy scenario that will never happen.

  • Unless the elections are rigged any party has the same chances of winning

    Lol. WTF?

    voting a third party is as much action as voting red and blue is.

    Kiddo. The most popular 3rd party candidate in the last election (Jill Stein) got a whopping half of a single percent of the total votes cast. That means that there was absolutely, positively, categorically no path to victory for her.

    So yeah, voting 3rd party, in a national election, is literally pointless and equivalent to inaction.

    If you want to vote 3rd party in local/state elections, great. You HAVE to do that for a LONG TIME to start getting more than ZERO 3rd party reps in Congress, and making that 3rd party a household name, before it stands the remotest chance in hell of winning a national election, such as the presidency.

  • your best option is to advocate for a different party

    Lol.

    I still don't know what the right combination of words is to get this through to people like you. Or if that combination even exists. Maybe caps? Let's try caps.

    NO 3RD PARTY IS VIABLE ON A NATIONAL SCALE MEANING NO 3RD PARTY EVEN STANDS THE REMOTEST CHANCE OF WINNING THE PRESIDENCY OR CONTROLLING OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

    Did that work?

    Even if a 3rd party started really putting in the effort (none are) and American voters started taking them seriously, it would still likely take DECADES for that movement to build to the point that it stood a chance of winning a national election. That means that you WILL have Democrats or Republicans in control of the federal government, likely for the remainder of your life.

    So if you want to help a 3rd party by voting for their candidates in local/state elections, then I'm with you and I support you. But if you aren't adulting up and voting for Dems in NATIONAL elections to prevent ACTUAL FASCISTS from taking control, then you have failed at life.

    Again, for the foreseeable future, Democrats or Republicans will control our federal government and Dems are so unbelievably better than Republicans that if someone can't acknowledge that, I have to believe they have brain damage.

  • Voting is so easy.

    Just do it anyway.

    Like, I get it. But just do it anyway.

    If nothing else it sends a message. If people who don't vote because they don't think it'll matter see how many other people actually did vote Dem and it surprises them, they might get out next time to join in.

  • Look, you can whine about Democrats all you want. The reality is no 3rd party is going to win the presidency anytime even remotely soon. As in, even if a 3rd party actually started putting in effort (they aren't) and Americans actually started showing support for that 3rd party on a local/state level, it would still probably take decades for that movement to gain enough traction to have a shot at the presidency.

    So you WILL get Republicans or Democrats in control of our federal government for the foreseeable future, and likely the remainder of your life.

    Sooooooooooooooo do the math. It's really not that hard.

    You get actual fascists. Or you get a milquetoast party that's always better with our economy, doesn't violate the fuck out of our Constitutional rights, doesn't impose tariff taxes on us, doesn't have masked goons executing Americans in the streets, occasionally does things like pass the ACA/Obamacare, forgive student loans, bolster social support programs, doesn't threaten our allies and cozy up to dictators, etc etc etc etc etc etc.

    More power to you if you want to vote 3rd party in local/state elections. But if you can't adult up and vote for the FAR, FAR better option when it comes to a presidential election, then you're straight garbage. Period.

    I’ll take the quick burn to the ground

    This is a profoundly immature statement. I promise you if a quick burn to the ground actually happened you would regret it. You are not prepared to live in a collapsed nation. I promise you.

  • You are correct.

    But the people you are trying to address are children throwing a tantrum who want what they want and nothing else. So they'll absolutely not vote or vote for a 3rd party candidate for president that literally cannot win and, thus, help Republican fascists take control.

    They do not care about the welfare of their nation (or any other nation). They care about their own self-satisfaction.

    I'm also tired of trying to reach them by pretending that the only reason I vote Democrat is to prevent fascist Republicans from taking control. It's a strategy to try to plead with these idiots using a single, very important point. Keep the fascists out. But I've been alive for long enough to know that Dems are always better regarding our economy. They don't collect Constitutional violations like trading cards. They do things like pass the ACA/Obamacare and try to eliminate student debt. They vote to bolster social support programs.

    I'm tired of pretending Dems are better just because they aren't Republicans. They definitely aren't perfect, but they get shit done and they have a track record to prove it. Most Americans, and especially the type that don't vote or vote 3rd party, are too goddamn lazy to do their homework to discover this truth about the Democrat party.

    Dems are already infinitely better than Republicans. The Democrat party just needs to be reformed to be pushed in a more progressive direction, which is totally possible since we just witnessed conservatives reforming the Republican party in the worst way possible over the last decade.

  • Lol. Someone's been in a coma for a number of years now. Welcome back.

    When a fascist authoritarian rises and takes control of a party and all that party's voters and all that party's members of Congress bend the knee for A FUCKING DECADE through all sorts of absurd bullshit, including relentless Constitutional violations then yes, they're ALL FUCKING FASCISTS.

    Glad to have you back. You've got some catching up to do.

  • Your “democracy” has been dead for 50+ years, if it ever really existed.

    Blah blah blah. Defeatism blah blah blah. Whine whine whine. I'll be at the polls voting to do my part to protect what I can. You can keep crying on the internet.

    The Democratic party is the polite face of fascism.

    I'll take "Stupid Statements From Whiny Bitches" for $500, Alex.

    Your idea of “adult pants” is as cartoonish as your worldview.

    Excuse me while I don't consider the clownish opinions of whiny defeatist bitches.

  • That would be fine and dandy if tariffs were only for frivolous purchases. Things you could do without. But they weren't. We were FORCED to pay higher prices for thing we NEED due to companies raising the prices due to illegal Republican tariffs.

    We were robbed. Again. Period.

    And anyone who was robbed deserves compensation.

  • Just wondering how many more times in my life I'm going to watch dipshit Republicans make dipshit moves that require dipshit bailouts that aren't for the people paying for the dipshit bailouts.

  • We should be doing a lot more than kicking them out of social groups. They're traitors to our nation who are degrading our quality of life.

    But we do what we can on an individual basis. I applaud you. I've removed all of them from my life as well. One of the best moves I've ever made.

  • Here in reality that isn't happening before November (3 months). And Bernie knows it.

    Time to put our adults pants on and make adult decisions to attempt to save our democracy. Once the fascists are out we can force the Democrat party in a more progressive direction.

    Edit: Downvote common sense statements all you want. You're only highlighting your own ignorance. Everything I stated is undeniably true here in reality. And if you don't think the Democrat party can be reformed, I implore you to review the last 10 years in which conservatives reformed the Republican party in the worst way possible.

  • We have the first amendment

    Lol. Stupid Americans voted to give total power to a party that doesn't give a FUUUUUUUUCK about the Constitution.

  • It's what conservatives crave.

  • Has she tried giving his micro-dick a BJ? She doesn't possess the ability to feel shame, so it's an option for her.

  • Who the fuck still uses Snapchat?

    Ditch that shit.

  • "Cave Woman Acts Out As Spotlight Shifts Away"

  • Elect conservatives (regressives), get war crimes.

    And higher costs of living.

    And more transmissible diseases.

    And infringed rights.