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@ Cowbee @lemmy.ml

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Actually, this town has more than enough room for the two of us

He/him or they/them, doesn't matter too much

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  • Because you are just as exhaustingly childish, naive and deluded as the Randistanis, who believe destroying the government will suddenly lead to perfect freedom and prosperity.

    I don't believe any of that, actually. I do believe revolution is necessary for Humanity to move forward, but not that it would immediately lead to perfect freedom and prospertity. That needs to be built, and it can only start by the proletariat siezing the Means of Production and wiping away the old Capitalist state.

    The rest of your comment is gish-gallop historical revisionist nonsense.

  • What the heck is a "political class?" I get what it's trying to say, but people just use the word class to refer to any group of people, and not what it's meant to be used for (relations to production).

  • Gross, thanks for the info though.

  • They'd get sent to Exploding Heads, most likely.

  • Exploding Heads is a Nazi instance that many people don't even know about because of how defederated it is.

  • A lot of people on Lemmy.world tend to be anti-Marxist, which generally happens when you defederate from the Marxist instances, at least in my experience. I'm used to it lol

  • As Capitalism decays, fascism and Socialism/Communism rise among the Bourgeoisie/Petite Bourgeoisie and the Proletariat/Lumpenproletariat respectively. It's only going to get worse and more polarized, hence the necessity to organize.

  • They aren't, less than 10% of Muslim-Americans are voting for Trump.

  • When someone responds to the majority of Muslim-Americans voting for Stein, Claudia De La Crúz, etc, with "they're stupid," when other groups are more in favor of Harris, this is racism. Plain and simple. The actual answer is a refusal to vote for genocide of Muslims globally, many Muslim-Americans have friends or relatives in Palestine, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, or Iran, which Israel is targeting. Thinking that it's because Muslim-Americans are stupid is racist.

  • This is just veiled racism, Muslim-Americans are majority polling in favor of third parties, while non-Muslim Americans are not. Rather than believing it's due to not wanting to support genocide, you take the "Muslim-Americans are stupid" route.

  • They aren't voting for Trump, though. The Muslim-American voterbase is largely moving to Jill Stein, Cornel West, and Claudia De La Crúz. It isn't due to stupidity, it's because they won't vote for genocide of Muslims, many of whom have family in Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, etc. The Democrats refusing to acknowledge this could legitimately cost Harris the election.

  • See also: the Dems suing to kick Claudia De La Crúz off the ballot in Georgia and PA. "Democrats" in name-only.

  • The biggest factor is

    they have fuck-all to do with Marxism and Communism

    Which is my biggest disagreement, what you see is the result of being Marxist and Communist. What do you expect Marxists and Communists to talk about?

  • What my familiarity is with one ideology or another is irrelevant to this thread.

    It's absolutely relevant, you're calling people claiming to be Marxists and Communists "fake" without demonstrating an understanding of what it is they advocate for! Of course it's relevant.

    But yeah, ml/c/usa is a great example of mostly anti-west mass posting by a vocal minority. We could get into specific subjects and events that may or may not be true, but that risks detailing the point of this thread. (This may have changed over the last few months, but I doubt it.)

    Communists are indeed anti-west. The West is the greatest source of Imperialism in the world, which is the greatest obstacle in the way of Socialism.

    For generic cut-n-paste responses, all you usually need to do is mention anything about Ukraine or Chinese gost cities. Those are just two glaring examples, but I am sure there are more.

    What do you mean, exactly? Where do these people diverge from Marxism?

    Your experience is going to be different because you likely have different views than me. That's not good or bad, it just is what it is.

    Evidently, I'm a Marxist-Leninist.

    No, I am not a fan of .world either. It's got its own set of issues.

    Was mostly a cheeky joke.

  • Oh, TIL. Thanks!

  • I have and blocked nearly all of it. They have fuck-all to do with Marxism or Communism and mainly focus on Kremlin and CCP anti-west propaganda.

    Can you explain what you mean by that? On what grounds do you claim they have "fuck all to do with Marxism or Communism?" How familiar are you with Marxist theory?

    It's worse than the "conservative" communities, actually. It's not so much about promoting a cause as it is about telling everyone else how they are "bad". Any dissent is usually met with insults or walls of cut-n-paste posts that all point back to state media sources or fake sites.

    I'd love examples, because this is blatantly false in my experience.

    While all places have their own degrees of circle-jerk mentality, it can be especially bad in some corners of Lemmy.

    Lemmy.world tends to be pretty bad, I agree 😜

  • You're more than free to actually visit instead of whatever caricature you concocted in your mind palace.

  • Not to be pedantic, but "corporate socialism" isn't a thing, that's just Capitalism as it monopolizes.

  • Why are you including things which have not yet made it to the Communist stage of development as examples of success of Marxist theory?

    Because Marxism isn't Utopian. Marxism isn't a grand idea of a just society, but a theory of historical development. Read Socialism: Utopian and Scientific, this is basic Marxism.

    That isn't a proof that Communism is great yet. It's calling the experiment before actually seeing if it works.

    No. Communism is not an "experiment." Marx didn't come up with Communism as a grand society to implement, but saw how one Mode of Production gives way to the next, ie how Capitalism monopolizes into socialized syndicates over time, reaching central planning after proletarian revolution.

    And I am not quick to call the USSR or Cuba particularly Dictatorships of the Proletariat. They became actual Dictatorships that carried forward the heirachy of the paramilitary organizations that spawned them never ceeding them to the workers councils like they were supposed to do instead creating new dynasties of career politicians....Career politicians of a one party state are not "working class".

    1. They were not dictatorships.
    2. Cooperarives aren't Marxism.

    I suggest reading Why do Marxists fail to create the "Worker's Paradise?" You have an anti-Marxist idea of what Socialism and Communism are. I also suggest reading Blackshirts and Reds to debunk anticommunist myths. I know I recommended both texts, and I know you didn't read them. You really should!

  • But its difficult to say if he had everything figured out because his "dictatorship of the proletariat" doesn't seem to ever actualize in a lasting fashion. It usually ends up as an authoritarian state arguably because the system is vulnerable to the first group that decides to break faith with the covenant

    This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the DotP and Communist history in general. The PRC has a DotP, the USSR did, Vietnam, Cuba, Laos, etc. All have a DotP. Read Why do Marxists fail to bring about the "Worker's Paradise?" You have an odd, idealistic idea of Marxism that even Marx would deny.

    A lot of Communist hopefuls tend to either take the examples of this happening as "not true Communism" or try to minimize the bad aspects of regimes that adopted the principles... It does seem once power is too laterally spread it becomes weak to any hierarchy that as long as they can talk a good game and use Marxist language.

    This is just a bunch of gestures. The reality is that AES states are truly guided by Marxism, and are true attempts at Communism, but haven't made it to the Communist stage of development.

    In either case a lot of us would not call those outcomes "proven correct". I would say he had some very lasting ideas which are useful tools... But the fact that none of the places where attempted enactment have particularly lived up to his hype means that like a lot of philosophy of his time that the answers are a lot more complex and nuanced than he could have forseen.

    They have absolutely lived up to the hype, coming with drastic reductions in poverty, wealth inequality, increases in life expectancy, housing rates, ending famines, free healthcare and education, democratization, and more. Please, read Blackshirts and Reds.