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Actually, this town has more than enough room for the two of us

He/him or they/them, doesn't matter too much

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  • No problem!

    I do disagree on the notion of "authoritarianism." Claims as such usually come from the ruling class in Capitalist countries who saw their class-allies oppressed in Russia and China. For the working class, society became more democratic.

    That's a decent point for fast fashion, though it is designed as a "churn and burn" system and is built on the backs of Imperialism, creation in the Global South for poverty wages to sell in the Global North for dirt cheap.

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  • Sure, nobody disagrees with that though.

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  • Yep, they exist in the Chiapas region too, like the Zapatistas. They have had to deal with the modern geopolitical climate and have learned a lot. Though, they do reject the label "Anarchist" and aren't quite Anarchist.

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  • There's a difference between tech and mass manufacturing and global supply chains. Having a microwave, full kitchen, solar panels, etc in a small commune is fine, but to make those you need those large-scale manufacturing processes and supply chains, which requires administration and coordination.

    That's why I suggested looking to the Zapatistas, people building a society not "anarchist" but close to what you want in the modern day, and studying their struggles and successes. What works for them, what do they struggle with? What can we take, what should we leave? Why go back tens of thousands of years when there are Anarchist societies today to learn from?

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  • Are you trying to revert to a hunter-gatherer society without depending on billions of people dying? I don't think that's progress, personally. I'd rather try to focus on the centuries of real success Marxists have achieved in the modern era over Capitalist systems, and progress forward. If you want Anarchism, why not look to the Zapatistas? They reject the label, but are real and practicing leftists that seem to satisfy what you want.

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  • Capitalism is declining, that much is obvious. You yourself said tribal societies took tens of thousands of years to find good organizational methods, whereas Capitalism has only been around for a few hundred. It is in the process of dying, and already Socialism is cropping up in other countries as a response to that decay.

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  • “Tankie” is a caricature. The idea of a tankie is the ideal vision of a McCarthyian Communist. In reality, the overwhelming majority of people labeled as such don’t actually fit that label, it’s more of a way to cast an image of someone’s positions based on, say, support for AES countries, and twist that into the evil Commie Pinko that haunts the dreams of 1960s children in the US.

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  • No, that's not my point. My point is that at the level of technological development of tribal societies, they correctly picked the most efficient organizational structures for their conditions. They were not uniquely gifted nor uniquely dumb, but real humans with human organization. Societies like the Aztecs began a form of production similar to Feudalism when that became more efficient, and it is likely that when they discovered technologies like steam engines they would have transitioned towards a form of society similar to Capitalism.

    Humans organize in manners most efficient for their conditions, it isn't about who discovers the best form of society but which form of society best suits the conditions of the land and level of productive forces.

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  • I don't really know what you mean, here. Do you think we can use the same methods of small, communal tribes as organization with mass manufacturing and complex supply chains? I would argue that society changed the methods of organization to better fit the level of technological process, and not out of any individual will.

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  • I disagree, tribal societies could only have that kind of relation by virtue of being small. In the age of modern industry, this is no longer feasible while maintaining large-scale manufacturing.

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  • Tribal societies that don't have advanced industrialization have a separate Mode of Production from "Socialism" in the Marxian sense. No racism at all.

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  • Actually Existing Socialism. Cuba, the PRC, Vietnam, Laos, the former USSR, etc.

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  • Marxism is just a tool, sure, though I think doubling life expectancy, over trippling literacy rates to 99.9%, lowering wealth disparity while increasing GDP dramatically, and democratization of society and the economy prove that Socialism does work. I think you have a very narrow view of the history of AES states and need to do more research, as it seems like you just have the default western viewpoint.

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  • I don't really know what your problem with Communism is, nor why you think it requires humans to want to make the world a better place. I recommend reading Marx's actual words on the subject.

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  • You've got the general critique from Mises right, but that's an extremely outdated critique that has long been debunked. The article Prices in a Planned Economy helps show how prices in a fully publicly owned economy could be planned, including what you are describing as "price signals." The fact is, the USSR's economy did work, and worked rather well, but issues like having to spend a huge portion of GDP on the defense industry just to keep up with the US starved the rest of the economy for growth, and the Soviets planned by hand rather than by computer. Neither of these issues need to be taken by any Socialist state going forward.

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  • Lemmy.ml is just the Marxist-aligned instance federated with Lemmy.world, Hexbear has more communists in total than Lemmy.ml.

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  • To be fair, most people don't support "Democratic Socialism" as a thing to begin with. Socialism is democratic, period, the idea that there's a special subset of an already democratic system that's especially democratic isn't helpful.

    Marxists, for example, already support democracy. The so-called "democratic Socialists" tend to support reformism, which is wrong and not any more democratic than regular Socialism.

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  • Hexbear supports AES, that's nowhere near the same as thinking "communism means supporting dictatorships." It's far easier to find people that have actually read theory on Hexbear than in most other instances on the fediverse.

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  • Lemmy.world is actively opposed to Marxism and Communism (from moderator and admin POV).

    As a side-note, all Communists support democracy, "democratic socialism" is usually ill-defined and meaningless, to one person it means the Nordics and to others it means Marxism without revolution, it only really hurts description.

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  • Close. The Petite Bourgeoisie form a "middle class," ie small business owners and the like. They are fundamentally different from the big Bourgeoisie that actually own and control industry.