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  • none of you are doing anything about it

    Considering that there have been multiple large scale protests, efforts towards economic blackouts, major shifts in political elections, and organizations working through the legal system to combat what is going on - I’m somewhat curious to know what your version of “doing anything about it” looks like.

    It’s violence, isn’t it?

  • Are we going to prohibit companies from operating five days a week

    The number of days an individual employee is working doesn’t necessarily dictate the number of days the business can operate.

  • Slop image is straight outta Wolfenstein lmao

  • I do concede that WWII was not fought and won by armed civilians, I was largely responding to “without guns we can’t fight fascism” and can see that, in the greater context of the thread, that might be less relevant. I do think the French Resistance would have been better equipped if they hadn’t had to rely on smuggled or captured weapons. A full scale invasion is going to pan out differently when most civilians are able to shoot back or organize into militia.

    Vietnam is a testament to the fact that multiple military superpowers can still lose to a lesser armed (but still armed) populace.

    And then the american fucking revolution, that I can’t even imagine how to tie in

    This is where you really have me stumped and should maybe do some reading into US history, fighting this war is the foundational experience that led to the creation of the second amendment. Here’s a good place to start:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Concord

  • US - 1765 to 1784

    EU - 1939 to 1945

    Vietnam - 1955 to 1975

    Yes, I’m aware that only one of these cases was literal fascism.

    You can see my other comment in this chain, but firearms are the “last stand” tools to fight oppression. We’re in the midst of a particularly sensitive stage and, in my opinion, haven’t crossed the “tipping point” where a violent response would be wise or justified.

  • I see that as a cop-out to engagement in discourse, an alt account and VPN/privacy technologies would be enough to shield someone from “taking the bait”

    My own opinion is that we have not reached a point where that level of response is justifiable, and I think it’s incredibly dangerous and irresponsible to suggest that it is.

    The administration’s current rhetoric revolves around the domestic terrorist threat / violent insurrectionist motif that, while some people may buying into, is not being substantiated with strong evidence.

    At this time, violent response / uprising by those perceived to be “on the left” will add fuel to validate that propaganda machine, it will firmly entrench the beliefs of those who might otherwise have a chance of moving away from it, and it will likely trigger a heavy-handed response leading to a substantial and catastrophic loss of life and liberty.

    Hypothetically, “with how subtle you are, you might as well” be an agitator seeking to be a catalyst to what I just described.

  • In terms of assigning responsibility, this is an easy one.

    “You” refers to the firearm’s owner. Firearm ownership comes with a high degree of responsibility. It means knowing and following the four rules, at least two of which must be broken at the same time for someone to get hurt. It means maintaining a reasonable degree of control over that firearm at all times, whether it’s on your person or being stored.

    If anyone is “finding” a firearm, reasonable precautions were not taken to secure that firearm.

    These cases all boil down to gross negligence on the owner’s part. Legally and logically, the owner should be the one to suffer the consequences.

    Unfortunately, in a lot of cases, the incident gets treated as a “tragedy” and legal consequences do not get applied.

  • You didn’t answer the question.

    Am I to infer that you think that right now is an appropriate time to actively seek out and shoot ICE agents?

  • Man, I see this sort of thing commented all the time as some sort of “gotcha” and really have to wonder what it is you’re envisioning.

    Put yourself in the shoes of a firearm owner for a moment. Evidently, you believe the US has passed a tipping point where violent resistance is necessary.

    Where are you going with your gun and who are you shooting at?

  • They’ve amassed missiles armed with warheads.

    The article you linked makes no mention of this. What is the basis for this claim?

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  • There are plenty of other forms of phrasing to communicate that though.

  • Fediverse @lemmy.world

  • Were any of those other incidents documented with the level of video footage that Good and Pretti’s were?

  • Trump wouldn’t recognize an insurrectionist if one stormed the White House while he was in it.

  • I’ve seen photos with feminine appearing stature / eyes doing on the street enforcement, I would assume them to be in the extreme minority in that context.

    There’s also back-end desk work where physical characteristics aren’t really going to matter.

  • Ever learn about “the shot heard around the world”?

    The country was literally born from a rebellion that reached a violent tipping point when the monarchy tried to confiscate/destroy munitions.

    as depicted

    The “depiction” you refer to is a caricature. While I’m certain there are people like this out there, this is not what the majority of firearms owners are actually like.

  • I will call it a successful gun ownership if I never have to use it

    This describes the overwhelming majority of firearms owners I’ve interacted with, including some with sizable collections and even a police officer on the SWAT team.

  • “Go ahead, make my day”

    That kind of mentality sickens me

  • The Heller decision would like a word with you

    If you’re a good firearm owner, your firearms are secured from unauthorized access. Plenty of ways to achieve that while keeping them readily accessible to the intended user for home defense, especially without children, housemates, or houseguests.