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sorry i yelled at you. unless you deserved it.

  • my original comment before editing read something like "they specifically asked chatgpt not to produce bomb manuals when they trained it" but i didn't want people to think I was anthropomorphizing the llm.

  • I'll for the both of us then.

  • hey that's pretty fuckin good lol

  • well, yes, but the point is they specifically trained chatgpt not to produce bomb manuals when asked. or thought they did; evidently that's not what they actually did. like, you can probably find people convincing other people to kill themselves on 4chan, but we don't want chatgpt offering assistance writing a suicide note, right?

  • when the trump admin is identical to the us federal govt, there will be no doubt about the matter.

  • Sometimes.

  • words have meanings. thats not what spontaneous means in this context. the definition of spontaneous in this context is independent of the nature of water. and i frankly don't give a shit if you struggle with social norms. i care that the word has a meaning and you are abusing it.

  • You're right that's exactly what's happening. I'm also struggling to keep a hold of my sanity. I'm confident this is by design.

    sorry I suggested we weren't allies because of a misunderstanding.

    you too friend.

  • i know it's offensive to see people censor themselves in that way because of tiktok, but try to remember there's a human being on the other side of your words.

  • no

  • that's a fair opinion. thank you for hearing me out as far as you did, despite how hard I tend to make that for people...

  • you want me to explain it differently, and I will. that's a very reasonable request.

    i think we should regulate things that can be shown to be dangerous to indiviiduals or society as a whole. I will take your rope example as not dangerous in that way and leave it unexamined, assuming you agree. compare to guns. guns are dangerous and you seem to agree with this too. rope is different from a gun, but both can be used to kill people. why don't we regulate rope? in a nutshell, because it takes a hell of a lot of effort to hurt or kill someone with rope. compare to a gun. the amount of effort required to kill a person, many people, with a modern firearm is a physical triviality comparable to brushing your teeth or changing your clothes. guns can be harmful without even trying, but you have to go out of your way to hurt someone with rope.

    compare with the current unregulated implementation of chatbots, as in the case of this child's suicide. a technology which can calmly sit with you and convince you that your suicide is a beautiful expression of individuality or whatever sycophantic bullshit that desperate child read.

    here, let's remind ourselves of some of the details presented in the article. This will no doubt be a refresher for you.

    mourning parents Matt and Maria Raine alleged that the chatbot offered to draft their 16-year-old son Adam a suicide note after teaching the teen how to subvert safety features and generate technical instructions to help Adam follow through on what ChatGPT claimed would be a "beautiful suicide."

    Adam's family was shocked by his death last April, unaware the chatbot was romanticizing suicide while allegedly isolating the teen and discouraging interventions.

    On Tuesday, OpenAI published a blog, insisting that "if someone expresses suicidal intent, ChatGPT is trained to direct people to seek professional help" and promising that "we’re working closely with 90+ physicians across 30+ countries—psychiatrists, pediatricians, and general practitioners—and we’re convening an advisory group of experts in mental health, youth development, and human-computer interaction to ensure our approach reflects the latest research and best practices."

    so, according to this lawsuit, a child was taught to circumvent chatgpt's safety measures by chatgpt itself, encouraged to commit suicide, and this all happened despite the fact that the model was specifically trained not to do this. this happened despite the large amount of effort that was put in to avoiding something like this.

    that this is even a possibility means we do not have the control over this technology it might otherwise appear that we do. Uncontrollable technology is dangerous. Dangerous technology should be regulated. thanks for coming to my ted talk.

    for more information about AI safety, check out robert miles.

  • okay. i'm going to pretend for a moment that this is not the obvious bogus excuse for bigotry you've already described it as, and that there is some merit to the traffic claim on the grounds that its obstructing the reflection off the paint in a way that the neglect I referred to wasn't already doing, which I've already agreed would cause issues in certain rare but distincly possible conditions, like if that giant fucking overhead light turns off and also at the same time your headlights dont work and also at the same time it's night and/or foggy and also at the same time are driving too fast for those conditions all at the same time. i'm going to pretend that i can't take exception with any of that, and that I didn't hear out of ron desantis' mouth and see it on his twitter feed that he is taking this step to suppress politcal speech, and i'm going to pretend that there has been shown any data at all to support the conclusion that this chalk artwork has had any measurable effect on traffic incidents at that intersection.

    how do I get from "you can make reflective paint non-reflective by coloring it with chalk," to "you're not allowed to put chalk in the spaces between the reflective paint?"

    is it a basic physics lesson now? teach me. how does adding colors to the spaces between the reflective paint reduce visibility?

  • 'people disagreeing with me on the internet is violence' -assic isamov

  • no, you have this backwards and i'm not taking time out of my day to explain how to you.

  • No, I'm sorry but no.

    For any movement to cohere they have to fundamentally agree about the nature of reality. As long as you continue to insist that the artwork in this image displays some legitimate traffic risk, we're not living in the same reality. until the day that you understand why i can't pretend you didn't just say two incompatible things about the nature of this erasure: that it's an excuse to exercise bigotry and also a reasonable point about safety, we are not on the same side. it's past time to figure out which reality you're living in.

    say what you will about conservatives, they struggle to see the world differently than how they are told to see it. They share a very firm consensus reality.

  • removes the administration’s ability to just act like this is being done for safety reasons and forces them to admit its out of bigotry.

    a. they don't need an excuse. they have power. if you are in doubt of that, please check the actual reasons ron desantis and co. are saying out loud with their words directly that they are doing this for.

    b. the fact that the chalk was colored inside the lines of the crosswalk after this supposed safety issue was pointed out and the chalk still being removed is sufficient to give that lie its character.

    with the notable exception of observing basically, 'you don't have to place the memorial directly on the spot where a tragedy occured,' yall are just carrying water for ron desantis.

  • the crosswalk was painted at some point with highly the reflective white paint commonly found on american roads in the expected pattern for a crosswalk, but the paint has not been maintained for some time. it is dirty and not a very good reflector, even in places where chalk and standard-issue road grime has been washed off. I base this analysis exclusively on the image of the chalkwalk in the OP article. when you go back to review that image in the article, please observe the flooding overhead light directly illuminating the entire crosswalk. I would be willing to grant that, in the event of a power outage or service interruption on that light, the chalk would probably not be significantly more effective at catching a car's headlights than plain asphalt- or cracked, broken, flaking, dirty, generally neglected 'reflective' paint.

    and yes you're absolutely right. there are plenty other crosswalks and walls for that matter in florida. They want that particular crosswalk to not be flamboyantly homosexual? well. there's more of us than there are of them, put it that way.

    edit: and in looking up the government's line on this: ron desantis is plainly displeased with the fact that public property is being used for political speech. stop carrying the fascist's water for them. this argument is not made in good faith by the people actually carrying out the erasure.

    https://x.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1958583393714667572

    We will not allow our state roads to be commandeered for political purposes.