computer programs which aren’t capable of consciousness in any way shape or form or of suffering or of intelligence in any way we would consider living.
Oh please, I would love to see you try and provide your source for that. But, of course, you don't have one, because you never bothered to do any actual reading on the subject. You've just read a few pop-sci headlines on Reddit and assumed that you're such a smart boy you don't need to do the reading
start with some proof or evidence of your position
Yeah? Like the proof and evidence you provided for you position that there's something inherently special about biological systems that makes them uniquely able to create consciousness that can never be replicated by computers. Like, this is literally just vitalism, which has been debunked for two hundred years
I get the feeling that research is circling around consciousness arising from quantum effects inside nerve cells.
It absolutely isn't; this is just a fringe theory that gets undue attention because Roger Penrose is a crank who also happens to have enough credibility from the genuine work in physics he's done. It really doesn't have any wider support.
I've studied this at a postgrad level, they sound like they've done their reading, you sound like an arrogant redditer who never bothers to learn about a topic because they assume they're so special and smart that their initial gut feeling is automatically correct.
Uhuh. Which "basic education" teaches you that? What is it specifically about "neurons and electrochemical signals" that causes them to result in consciousness
Imagine thinking that I, of all people, am an alt account of Grail. This is maybe the only time I have ever agreed with them