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  • dude, i will not engage with your brainrot.

    And that's what it comes down to in the end right? "I won't engage with your ideas because they're innately wrong, and I have declared them wrong without engaging with them.

    i don’t support the fucking IDF, go bash your head against some other wall.

    Point to where I said you did?

    I never said that i don’t question what i heard, stop imagining things.

    Point to where I said you did. Sounds like you need to stop imagining things.

    What i’ve heard makes a lot of sense tho

    "It makes sense"? What kind of standard is that?

    I ask again, can you name one claim the west has leveled against China you don’t believe?

    like the chinese bothering Uyghurs even in europe and threatening their families in china to keep them silent.

    Remember how I said you cannot claim to hate western authoritarians if you also unquestioningly accept everything they say about their enemies?

    there is just too much evidence for behaviour like that from multiple sides.

    How did you determine this?

    not everything about china is bad (there is good in nearly every country), and they’ve done a lot to improve the average life there, but they mess too much with their citizens for my liking.

    Careful, this is enough to get you branded as a red fascist authoritarian tankie. I know from first hand experience, as this is basically my position on China.

    and if you start defending the DPRK here, i’ll laugh your ass outta here.

    Well this is just a straight up admition that you're position is unfalsifiable doctrine.

    This poor excuse for a country is a private kingdom for a corrupt family with underfed and brainwashed victims as citizens. I will not lose a word more about this blemish on the surface of our planet.

    Reread this to yourself and then consider if you saw this kind of language coming from the other side whether you would think it sounds like it's coming from someone who is themselves "brainwashed". Also insanely chauvinistic to write off a an entire country as "a blemish on the surface of our planet"; that is legitimately fascist rhetoric - like straight up Nazi shit.

    Regarding immigration into Europe: it’s a shame, but you can’t help everyone if it costs you everything

    So suddenly authoritarianism is fine with you. it's just "a shame". Guess what; every authoritarian uses this reasoning, you just have a massive double standard.

    if the borders are opened completely, it would destroy exactly the thing the immigrants want to have - a stable society.

    Again, you are not anti-authoritarian then. "Oh but it's nessaccery that we use unilateral lethal force to deny these people access to the commons, even after we unilaterally used lethal force to destroy the places they were living, because it allows us - not them - a stable society."

    That's just authoritarianism.

    isn’t it better there if i take you by your word?

    How about you go live in Gaza or Iraq or Somalia? If you're going to endorse what you're governments did to them, maybe you should stand by your word and actually practice what you preach. "Oh it's shame that we have to drown them in the Adriatic, but it's necessary so I can have a stable society."

    your imagined utopia

    Where have I said this? stop imagining things.

    if you want to have a society like the chinese have

    I'm working on it, Remainder is hard and they're not particularly welcoming to migrants, but I'm working it.

    you don’t have to spread it where noone wants it.

    This from the person who endorsed Europe's actions? Nobody has tried harder to spread their ideology where noone wants it that western liberals

    And the fucking point is that i don’t get banned if i say something that doesn’t fit in db0’s worldview

    Yeah, you do, far more so than you will on .ml. db0 perma banned me from the entire instance for saying something that doesnt' fit with his world view on a different instance. Recently I said something else he didn't like on a different instance, so he perma banned me again even though I already was, just because he was pissed.

    not like dessalines and other mods on .ml

    Literally the opposite; to get a perma ban on .ml you basically have to be persistently and obviously abusive and have already gotten multiple temp bans. Seriously, actually check the mod logs.

  • I mean, if you really can't tell, then yeah, I guess I do know you better.

  • have it occured to you that they are equally evil to us

    That's just as absurd. Be serious; if China were to exterminate your entire country, would you say that that's no worse than what they currently do? Because that's what the west does and is doing.

    or are you saying that the dead Filipinos are less important because not as many have died compared to Gaza?

    Yes, less people dying is not as bad as more important dying, that should go without saying. If the Filipino government has killed a single person, does that make it as bad as the Holocaust?

    because to me, both are unfortunate.

    And one is vastly more "unfortunate". (I would say horrific and monstrous, but sure "unfortunate").

    thats why i cant think of China as the lesser evil.

    Then I cannot count the Filipines as a lesser evil to the Nazis; if proportionality means nothing and all evils are equal, then you are as evil as the Nazis.

    just because i dont think agree that China is the lesser evil does not mean that i am pro US.

    If you believe of the far worse atrocities of the US do not make it worse than China, then yes, you are pro US, because you have a double standard that favours them.

  • what do you mean by your question?

    I'm wondering how you can possibly find yourself writing that China is worse than the West because they harrass fishing boats in a minor naval territory dispute and not realise how absurd that is.

    when we experience their abuses firsthand

    Do you think nobody experiences the abuses of the West first hand? Do you think other people aren't real?

    people work against their will in the illegal gambling centers online scamming sites they operate, kill our wildlife by the boatloads by importing our protected species for their medicine, or are the biggest drug lords in the country resulting to the deaths of many, what should have we heard?

    You probably should have heard any news from the West in the last few decades? "Oh yeah, exterminating two million people in Gaza isnt great, but China runs online scamming sites!"

  • I don’t think China wants war with the EU, the USA, SK or Japan.

    And why does that not make you a tankie?

    the accused country has a record of not letting the truth be revealed and openly threatening another country with invasion

    What about when the accusing countries have a record of not letting the truth be revealed and openly actually invading multiple other countries?

  • How so? Seems like you're just going "no U!" without actually considering if it actually makes sense.

  • Why not? Left wing extremism is leftwing extremism

  • Can you name a single accusation the West has made against China that you don't believe?

  • "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

    Jean-Paul Sartre

  • It shows.

  • ???

  • "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

    -Jean-Paul Sartre

  • People will complain about .ml users being toxic and then act like this

  • Do you just read these insults off a pre-prepared list?

  • "Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."

    -Jean-Paul Sartre

  • What Israel power fantasy? Everyone is shitting on them and shouting to free Palestine.

    Lol, half the political coms on .world are moderated by a Zionist who bans people for reporting Gaza genocide denial and considers "death to the IDF" forbidden

  • .ml users did.

    No. They didn't. Not a single .ml user has ever claimed this. Not ever. You are lying. You are openly lying and you know it.

    Does it really not give you a single moment of pause when you realise you are resorting to open falsehood to make your point? Do you not ask yourself why you are having to do that? Can your position not stand if you're honest?

  • Unsurprising, fascists like you are usually anti-intellectual.