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BrainInABox

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  • How bad has literacy gotten that that seems like a lot of text to you? My count was about right, by the way. And if you actually read it, the point was that I actually do check sources, unlike the rest of you.

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  • Did that even make sense in your head?

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  • You can't be a subject matter expert on everything though?

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  • What a shock that someone who pretends to be an anarchist would go to bat to defend the reliablity of far right western propaganda outlets like Radio Free Asia, the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, and the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Remember, if it doesn't' have the Western Neo-liberal seal of approval, it's not credible and should be removed, that's the anarchist way!

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  • Man, you people really loath anyone who doesn't just shut up and agree.

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  • Did you copy and paste the wrong quote? That doesn’t say anything about organ harvesting.

    You're really just going to play dumb on purpose? Why? What does that accomplish?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

    Calls it a conspiricy theory, not "accusations and the counterarguments to said accusations"

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

    These both literally state that the claims are false in their openings

    You have literally just shown my point because you couldn't be bothered to read past the headline.

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  • Yessir, i do believe that the information on Wikipedia resembles the truth a lot more than anything that comes from lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml or hexbear.net.

    Yes, I do: because it confirms the things you already believed

    Because Wikipedia gives me sources i can read up and decide myself if that’s bullshit or not

    And do you? Do you read all those books from Anne Applebaum and similar right wing pundits? Do you read all the reports from far right think tanks like Australian Strategic Policy Institute? Do you read claims of not just the publications, but the save individual people, who have consistently repeated every verified lie to come out of the US state department, from WMDS in Iraq to babies in ovens in Gaza? How exactly are you "deciding for yourself" if that's bullshit?

    And also because Wikipedia leaves politics aside as good as they can

    They really don't. Not that it's even possible to "leave politics aside" when talking about things that are political. Thinking they do is basically admition that you consider your politics "the default".

    if your perception of reality has anything to with what the world at large has agreed on, but there i lost ya, didn’t i?

    You really want to commit the argument "it's true because it agrees with the average political position of westerners?" (because by "the world at large", you, naturally, where only talking about westerners.)

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  • Falun Gong is a Chinese qigong discipline involving meditation and a moral philosophy rooted in Buddhist tradition. The practice rose to popularity in the 1990s in China, and by 1998, Chinese government sources estimated that as many as 70 million people had taken up the practice.[42][43] Perceiving that Falun Gong was a potential threat to the Party's authority and ideology, Communist Party leader Jiang Zemin initiated a nationwide campaign to eradicate the group in July 1999.[44]

    The above paragraph is from the page, and it is claiming truth.

    So you're just lying, you never actually wanted evidence, you were just trying to waste peoples time by asking them to provide it even when you will just ignore it and lie when they provide it.

    More to the point, they don't have pages for other false claims that just "about the accusations and the counterarguments to said accusations, not a page claiming to the truth". There's nothing like this for Pizzagate or Birtherism.

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  • Unless those claims are against China though, right? That's you're position.

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  • Do you need me to send you a recording of me physically reading the text for you before it counts? Or are you a big enough boy to read it one your own? Were you actually asking in good faith because you genuinely wanted to know? Or were you just trying to be as oblique as possible to waste my time?

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  • Falun Gong is a Chinese qigong discipline involving meditation and a moral philosophy rooted in Buddhist tradition. The practice rose to popularity in the 1990s in China, and by 1998, Chinese government sources estimated that as many as 70 million people had taken up the practice.[42][43] Perceiving that Falun Gong was a potential threat to the Party's authority and ideology, Communist Party leader Jiang Zemin initiated a nationwide campaign to eradicate the group in July 1999.[44]

    If you cannot see any problems with the above paragraph, which does not say anything about "alleged", by the way, then I don't know what to tell you.

    If you think that taking far right propaganda outlets like The Victims or Communism Memorial Foundation (which is a covid truther organization, among other things), then I don't know what to tell you.

    Other than the fact that you don't actually want reliable information, you want information that confirms what you already believed.

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  • How unsurprising that a self-described "anarchist" is willing to treat far fight extremists like the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and the Falun Gong cult as infallible sources of truth so long as it lets them attack the geopolitical enemies of their country.

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  • How are you able to determine matters of fact by pure critical thinking? Are you really claiming that you are immune to lies?

    For research I put trust in peer review articles by reputable journals.

    Great! I wish Wikipedia was held to that standard, rather than regularly using tabloids, think tanks, and literal propaganda outlets.

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  • Post truther is when you don't believe that people have the magic ability to determine if something is true by pure gut feeling.

    All the liberal-fascists here whine about misinformation and post-truth, and then through a fucking fit that anyone suggest that they actually be serious about that.

    You people don't want to combat misinformation, you want the misinformation you already believe to go unquestioned.

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  • See? You've just straight up given up the game, immediately disregarding any pretense that you ever cared about reliable sources or honestly, and just straight up admit that it's only about politics alliegence. You will believe anything Wikipedia tells you, even if it openly comes from western propaganda outlets like the Victims of Communism Foundation or Radio Free Asia, because they agree with your politics.

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  • It's very easy to just spit out rote strawman that don't resemble anything I actually said, rather than actually engage with what I said.

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  • I tried that once, a bunch of power users got together and tried to dox me

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  • I’ll click on them and then read them.

    And how will that allow you to know if they're right or not?