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I also may boost posts I make with alts, but I'm mainly here so that should be rare.
Thanks! Though not guaranteed, likelihood makes me a bit more confident now. _
From what I can observe lurking, communication between Lemmy and Mastodon is pretty half-baked, with things overall boiling down to users on Mastodon being able to follow Lemmy users, but not the opposite, and posts from Mastodon users may appear on Lemmy but with the text body appearing as title instead. Issues like these may appear due to how each site engine handles the data received. If you must follow users from Mastodon on Reddit-like forums, Mbin is far more compatible.
To have an aggregation tool that could seamlessly put together such different environments would awesome, but the scope can be a bit too overarching at first. My suggestion, having seen the progress of another aggregation platform (mainly for video/audio), Grayjay, is to proceed slowly at creating integrations, as effort to maintain them is potentially exponential, and then, when you feel comfortable managing the ones you already made, proceed to the next.
And unrelated, but is RSS truly shrinking? I found out about it some 1~2 years ago, and unless it's due to me using this type of technology for so little time, but it feels far more are made or keep existing than there are feeds being killed. Worse part for finding the feeds is that often they are hidden in the page's source code.
I consider two things to think Peertube not being sustainable isn't the case.
First, the noise caused bad actors / professional fearmongerers, and people too used to Youtube or that think any social medias would skyrocket in the first month of service, may make people think it's a far more prevalent opinion.
Second, platforms such as Peertube may cather to any movements, be them cultural, political, for business, and so on, while also, due to being based on instances, it much harder to be taken over.
Those two together make me see the project as having great potential, a potential that some may fear intentionally or otherwise.
And on a side note, "the new mobile app" reminds me, anyone could potentially make programs for it, or even integrate Peertube to their own. Another reason for it being able to cather to way more people, I think, as then programs could be made to interests and needs otherwise not found.
Thanks! Also will try to find info on that upcoming one.
Indeed seem to be few to me too. But I wonder elsewhere, like a Japanese Piefed instance and a S. Korean Mastodon instance I found before.
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Never paid much attention to that feature, but it sounds similar to microblogging, e.g. Twitter's posting system. And given that, maybe you'd be interested in checking Mbin (has Reddit-like UI/UX), Piefed (dev says microblooggin is in the roadmap), Mastodon (Twitter-like UI/UX) and/or Misskey (also Twitter-like UI/UX)?
(edit - weird, the link isn't appearing directly on The/Brain/Bin...)
On a more personal take, I prefer Mbin because "it just works", I use far more RSS than the sites directly, and when I use them directly, I use an UBlock Origin filter to hide posts I either vote up or down (very responsive =D ) and block sites I recognize as manipulative (rather common sadly). That also makes so I end up not missing much on Lemmy's functions.
Not familiar enough with PieFed to give an opinion, but among Lemmy and Mbin, of things I can observe:
- Lemmy has far more visual candies / visual noise than Mbin, whose UI rather barebones
- But as Mbin has a more basic UI, it tends to break less and be more compatible with user scripts and filters
- On RSS, from my experience, Mbin links to posts properly through RSS, while, maybe it's version-dependent, Lemmy sites seem to have a bit of trouble with linking posts with links attached to their titles, usually opening the title's attached link instead
- However, Mbin doesn't seem to be able to fetch the post's body through RSS
- On newer versions of the Lemmy engine, you can block instances and hide posts, but not block domains linked in posts
- On Mbin, afaik, you can't block instances nor hide posts (both requiring browser modifications from my tests), but you can block domains
- On Lemmy, also maybe version-dependent, but it seems that instances don't host RSS for federated communities, while Mbin does (good for redundancy, I think)
- For microblogging, RSS doesn't work on Mbin (might in the future?) despite other microblogging alternatives having them, and integration of microblogging to Lemmy only happens indirectly
- On Lemmy, some communities seem to have an extra step to subscribing where you need approval after applying, while Mbin doesn't
- Specific to Mbin, but the error 404 issue from Kbin when blocking or subscribing to an user or community seems to be extremely rare with its successor
- Lemmy allows visualizing how formatting will look like before posting, while Mbin doesn't
On theming, akin to Linux, I don't think there's much room for breakthroughs, or at least they'd be harder to achieve, being more a case of picking the "flavor" you want instead. Furthermore, I think this applies to UI as a whole in social medias, federated ones included.
Now, one thing that annoys me and I think that falls on branding is how most of the federated platforms don't have proper names. As I follow communities and people primarily by RSS, I like things to be organized, and having to figure out how to fit "names" like
kbin.social(RIP),lemm.ee,feddit.ukand the sort is a bit of a migraine. "<.<No one cares about servers
I'd like to see the source for that.
And even if it is/was true, looking at what came before, you'd just be paving the path to become that which you were against.If one is to depend on a single element, when it fails, it becomes the failure point for the whole ecosystem. Like with the instance I originally stuck to, Kbin.Social, where, if was the sole instance of the federated forums, when it died, the "fediverse" as a whole would have died overnight.Also, a centralized platform is far easier to be taken over by either good or bad actors, and at least with fragmentation, when you notice degradation in one of the pieces of the fediverse, you can easily jump to a platform that hasn't been compromised while not having to build the community and groups from scratch.Sites with specific niches and scopes that still allow for integration, and the culture that ensues, are also an alien concept on a centralized site, and what takes over basically becomes the face of the site's ecosystem as a whole. With the federation/defederation system, however, it's much easier for a site to build its own ecosystem while letting in and out just enough of/to other instances to oxygenate it.And lastly, like with email and Linux, while some may be rather passionate to defend it, I think that, despite that, it's still a technology, or at least an idea, with great potential, even if slow but constant, as, once more, anyone can make instances in their own vision, or join a platform that better fits what they need while not making a walled garden to force users to stick to it.
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If I understood the joke (not familiar with the acronyms), it's about gas-based equipment breaking down more easily?
And if the user uses Mbin instances, he/she can even block posts that link to other domains, as often political posts link to news sites.
And some times, having the initiative to create such more specific communities could be a change factor for the growth of a social media. Also, with federation, not just the person can choose where to create the community on while not making it a walled garden as other sites would still have access to it, but also if a community for the given subject already exists but the user thinks he can do better, he/she can more easily do it with how expansive the "fediverse" is.
Growth is a process, not an immediate switch. Every social media started small and then grew. If immediatism, or however it is called, was the predominant factor for any struggle to become an achievement, nothing would be achieved.
And on lack of contents, I, for one, block everything that is not of my interest, quite a lot to be honest, specially with certain niches spamming the federated platforms, but even then, I get a feeling I should trim even some of the communities/magazines I follow/subscribe to as I can barely catch up to those already.
While I think fragmentation can grow into being a problem, trying to standardize things too much can be problematic too, as the developers would be bloating the software for features that the community may use very little, as well as, by consequence of the bloating, the devs being either limited to a design that needs to take into account the quirks of all object formats, or to make some frankenstein monster design to include those different formats.
A more reliable path, I think, is what Kbin (RIP) and its successor Mbin do, to have a section for articles and one for notes. While it's still more load on the developers and the servers, at least it shouldn't be as much as having to make sense of multiple formats together, since the two sections don't directly interfere with each other. This, on a final point, is, to my understanding, and with their respective proportions, what happens with the Linux family of operating systems, where it's also pretty fragmented, but every once in a while a way to put two different environments together appear, like Wine and Xfce translating Windows and QT5 programs, or AppImage and Flatpak trying to be as universal as possible by depending on as little default dependencies from the host system as possible.
Something I've been thinking about is that changes only happen organically, so I think it's good to not be an insistent advocate for a platform X, Y or Z. Instead, I think that perhaps it's better, instead, to simply use the platform the person is more favorable towards whenever possible, and if people then share something worth sharing, it should slowly bring people over. And regarding the annoying part, at most, making a note about technicalities and the type of people in the site could be good if discussions the person is engaged in allows, and if the person didn't burn people's patience by being pedantic.